thanks guys,I got a price of 430 to 550 for the cz,that was between 4 shops.I had a price of 520 for the savage.im going for the cz I think.The whole package,the gun ,sights and moderator will cost 650,I enquired about the Sako quad with the different barrels starts at 750 and I need 2 different certs for it.deker you have any more sites for sights