thanks jazz,the only problem is im over here in ireland,you being in england ........now thats a problem,lol.he sounds very interesting.BTR the only fly in the ointment is,who might be willing to let some stranger off of a computer turn up and watch their dog going out doing what it can,especially with all the dog robing going on.this is why Ive started to put out feelers way ahead so if I do get to hear about a dog the owner will have time to investigate as to who exactly they are dealing with.My stud dog will have to be that bit more than a lamp and fox killing type,I would like a dog that c