Unless you know who some one is,you don,t know thier dog,s. It,s easy to slag each other off ,constructive comments might help. Jr only want a dog to put over his bitches for christ sake. Jr ,you won,t go far wrong using Mal Thomas stuff, I,ve got two of his through Rusty Rees, s/wales. Spot on bitches,started at about 14 months,no problems at all mate