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Thanks Gypsy, plenty of information written down detailing the history of hunt's hounds out there, but it's unfortunately down to individuals to pass on the history of the hunt terriers...

Very interesting Eastcoast, thanks v much!

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Was thinking as much Bosun....

I know it makes little difference now but out of interest, I've a pedigree here of a Russell a pal of mine got off Jeff Burman back in the day. The dog was called Glue born 3/8/1970. Anyone have any information on the following breeders or terriers.... Jeff Burman's dog Jack and his 2 bitches Scamp 1 & Scamp 2, Sid Grantham's dog Tuppence & Brandy, and his bitches Sally and Heather, Taunton Vale terriers dog Pat and bitch Gyp, R. Elvin's dog Freddie, Exmoor Foxhounds dog Rabbis, Dulverton West Hunt bitch Norah, Heythrop Hunt's dog Pepper and Cotley Harriers bitch Nettle... Thanks

Stevens blood...?

May he Rest in Peace!

Great result... Looks like brilliant craic. Some service to the farmer! Well done all...?

Sounds like you've a fair idea of things as is Steve. Reckon you need 2 lifetimes to get a proper grasp of line breeding... Just when you think you've cracked it, you're thrown a curve ball. I don't care who you are, no-one is an expert! I've been around and dug with some of the greats. And although great terriermen, they made mistakes and didn't get it right just like everyone else. I agree all good dog men have to be obsessed and live for terrierwork. What I would say is and this is just my opinion and like everyone else I'm no expert. You need to know the breeding behind your line, the good

Done that too... Again mixed results over several litters! In conjunction with and without the Eurican ....

Both myself and my buddy used it and got mixed results across several litters... It by no means guarantees a healthy litter. On the whole I'd agree it's worth a try just don't get your hopes up...

They reckon it's canine herpes. A pal who keeps a very decent line and knows his dogs won't breed off an old stud. He believes they won't produce sound, strong, quality pups. Not sure do I agree. I've asked several huntsmen.. none agree with him. Any thoughts?

That's a fair point.. you're right, if he bred litters solely for the right reasons ie. Improving/maintaining a working line then of course there's a big difference than simply churning out pups for money. Point taken in that regard. I don't know the man or the line...

By the sounds of things AC is a gent and his terriers seem to have a v good name. But correct me if I'm wrong, did he not get his terriers from someone else originally and sold pups, more than likely quoting the original breeding as he did. And all this time did he not use outcrosses along the way... So are they still pure AC terriers? & If he never used any outcrosses are they not pure original owners terriers?

Totally agree, there is no excuse for cruelty and law breaking... That's not my point!