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#46 Alsone

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Posted 22 February 2015 - 06:30 pm

 

 

 

some countries have a "thing" about civilian use of military calibres, so 30-06 maybe a more sensible choice

 its a necked down .30-06

 

 

.30-03 Charlie.

 

Still a big cartridge though.

 

No Alsone the .270 winchester is derived from a necked down .30-06 not the earlier, very short run .30-03 which was considered underpowered, so was altered and became the .30-06, the .25-06 .270, are simply necked down versions of the .30-06, parent case.

 

 

Not according to the Complete .270 Reloading manual (2004) or the Wiki:

 

 

While it is true that a .270 Winchester case can be formed from a 30-06 Springfield case, the case length of a 30-06 is 63.3 millimetres (2.494 in) while the case length of a .270 is 64.5 millimetres (2.540 in), the same as a .30-03 Springfield. It is recommended that .270 Winchester brass be formed from .35 Whelen or .280 Remington cases.[11]

 

http://en.wikipedia....ef-loadbook_3-1

 

http://www.amazon.co...r/dp/B000WZPRUQ

 

Whilst it's true the 30-03 was superceded by the 30-06 within a couple of years of it's launch, the .270 case is said to be actually based on the .30-03 case not the .30-06.

 

I wasn't trying to be pedantic btw, just correct the thread for posterity.


Edited by Alsone, 22 February 2015 - 06:31 pm.


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Posted 22 February 2015 - 06:56 pm

Again I disagree, it was more assisting him given he was quoting .270 or .308, most people will go for .243, throwing in .240 when there are limited calibers at that in the UK could merely confuse, hence .243.. as for embarrassing silences, not concerned about them.. I know that technically it is .240 but who uses it in the UK, it is a guide which most follow to go to .243 or .270? Why confuse the guy when .243 is the most used & widely recognised or higher.. 

 

Let's drop it we clearly have a different perspective on this.

You can disagree all you like, however if you were filling a test sheet in and put down .243 as the legal minimum, you would be wrong , not technically wrong, wrong, end of, and your answer would receive a cross instead of a tick, he never mentioned .243 as one of his choices, and has, as you can see for yourself been granted a .30-06, stroke of luck there then eh? :hmm:



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Posted 23 February 2015 - 09:12 am

Again I disagree, it was more assisting him given he was quoting .270 or .308, most people will go for .243, throwing in .240 when there are limited calibers at that in the UK could merely confuse, hence .243.. as for embarrassing silences, not concerned about them.. I know that technically it is .240 but who uses it in the UK, it is a guide which most follow to go to .243 or .270? Why confuse the guy when .243 is the most used & widely recognised or higher.. 

 

Let's drop it we clearly have a different perspective on this.

 

.240 is the minimum calibre laid down in the Deer Acts as being all deer legal (various other energy etc provisions also apply) , it isn't a technicality and it isn't a guide, it is the Law. 

 

The fact that .240 is about as easy to find as Rocking Horse **** is neither here or there.

 

Most people end up with a .243 simply for that reason, it doesn't change the law.

 

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Edited by Deker, 23 February 2015 - 09:15 am.

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Posted 23 February 2015 - 03:15 pm

.30-06 is a great calibre and a good choice.

Very versatile round, no reason why you can't use it for your long range fixing, as long as your ticket is conditioned as such.

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Posted 23 February 2015 - 03:22 pm

Long range foxing. Fkn predictive text.

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Posted 23 February 2015 - 04:31 pm

Cheers bud. I'm putting down deer boar and AOLQ to cover old charlie. Also going to be applying for a European licence.

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Posted 19 April 2015 - 10:52 am

Just some info for you, the 30-06, .308 and the 6.5 X 55 are all "military calibres" though with the 30-06 & 6.5mm not recently.

 

I have shot boar with the 6.5mm and they dropped perfectly well.

 

The .308 replicates approximately the same performance as the 30-06 but does so more efficiently.

 

The recoil from the 6.5mm is kinder than the others and in scandinavia the hunters have been using the round for over a century to take moose. It would appear that in the hands of someone competant it is adequate for significantly larger game than boar. Whichever you go with, bon chance!



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Posted 19 April 2015 - 04:47 pm

Feo suggested the .308 so that looks like the winner. I can also get the same rifle as my .22-250 in .308 calibre so all is good as I love my little zastava m70 sporting rifle.

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 07:31 pm

Just use you 22-250

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 09:13 pm

I can't this side of the border mate. And am planning on going to Poland and Russia with foreign friends to do some boar and possibly bear hunting so a .308 fits the bill perfectly. Just unsure on the .308 for bear lol

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 09:17 pm

.308 is a great calibre.
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Posted 20 April 2015 - 11:04 pm

I can't this side of the border mate. And am planning on going to Poland and Russia with foreign friends to do some boar and possibly bear hunting so a .308 fits the bill perfectly. Just unsure on the .308 for bear lol


A nice .375 H&H for those Russian Bears...

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 11:12 pm

I can't this side of the border mate. And am planning on going to Poland and Russia with foreign friends to do some boar and possibly bear hunting so a .308 fits the bill perfectly. Just unsure on the .308 for bear lol

 

From the little I know about big game, (about everything I've written here!), .308 is on the light side. .338 lapua or .375 mag much more suited to bear. Problem with these is both are severe overkill on deer and likely to pass through and then some, so only answer might be to get the .308 and borrow a rifle for bear shooting when over there.

 

(Cross posted with SS)


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Posted 21 April 2015 - 04:45 am

Thanks for then advice chaps. It's certainly not worth making a mess of a beautiful meat deer so probably best to borrow/hire a bigger rifle whilst over.

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Posted 21 April 2015 - 08:50 am

22-250 and a .270, in both cases they could be described as relatively noisy and vicious to use!

 

My .308 Rem 700SPS is a pussycat to shoot, it is remarkably easy and restrained and relatively quiet.  That said, it rarely comes out for ANY deer, my .243 does just fine, and the .223 for the smaller ones!

 

Deer calibres are personal choice/ability/situation and FEO of course.

 

Obviously get what you want, but bear in mind there is good reason why the common calibres are common!

 

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