cúagusgiorraí 57 Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 (edited) The greyhound I have seen runs like a 40 mile an hour battering ram! If you have very open fields and flat land then a greyhound would be in it's element coursing and catching. But where I live there is really not enough space for the greyhound to perform at it's best in the hunting field. Smaller, more nimble intelligent hounds are what do best here. I do love the greyhounds though. Edited April 28, 2009 by cúagusgiorraà Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted April 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 I like this thread, of course I do, I started it but, I hope it keeps going. I have my own opinion on this subject and I just cant see the need for a "lurcher" for daytime hunting. I have no problem with that style on the lamp but for daytime I just think that "speed" kills. You take that however you want but a good dog will be extremely fast and extremely under control and extremely deadly on their game. I truely believe that if people bred "field type" greyhounds that there would be absolutely no need for "lurchers" for daytime hunting in any terrain. By the way, I dont distinguish from different types of greyhounds. It makes no sense to me. The original hunting greyhound had stamina and speed and damn sure didnt chase a piece of tin around in a circle. Quote Link to post
allgame 0 Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 we call them bush greyhounds over here just breed for hunting but even they are only marjonaly better then track dogs there good killers but they kill anything and stock proffings hard there just to dumb when something runs they chase, there just to fast they cant move in tight spaces iv seen them skinned on trees before from there shoulder to there hip even half greyhounds are troublesome dogs, the reason there sh#t is exactly the reason there crossed to dumb to fast i dont even think id own a half greyhound ever agian although they all caught and killed fantastically iv never seen one live over two years thats reguraly hunted Quote Link to post
moonlighter 1,165 Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 in my opinion, most game/vermin that gets away is not down to lack of speed from the dog......its more down to lack of stamina or the prey dodging and using the land/cover to its advantage.......therefore a lurcher will catch far more than a greyhound.....thats why lurchers were invented... Quote Link to post
skycat 6,174 Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 I've not had a huge amount of experience with pure Greyhounds, but the ones I have seen/owned, like Allgame says, didn't last long round my way. Barbed wire fences, lumps of fallen trees, dips and bumps in the ground. Open flat ground: not a problem, but speed isn't the only thing that catches you quarry in the areas I work my dogs. Field craft, common sense, agility, BRAINS (lots needed!) and that all important sense of self preservation: without that a dog wouldn't last a season with me. What about the German Shepherd, Dan? OK, so a first cross would be too heavy and overheat like mad, but dilute that blood a bit more and you should have something pretty formidable on most quarry. I a different life with more time etc etc, I'd love to put my Saluki bred dog over my GSD first cross. Quote Link to post
loftmonkey 2 Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 you probably don`t get land like we have here in the uk - we have tiny fields dry stone walled off or with barb wire - your used to vast open spaces going by your previous photos - where i live really its more suited to lurchers under 25inches (obviously they are exceptions) Quote Link to post
digger63 3 Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 "we call them bush greyhounds over here just breed for hunting but even they are only marjonaly better then track dogs there good killers but they kill anything and stock proffings hard there just to dumb when something runs they chase, there just to fast they cant move in tight spaces iv seen them skinned on trees before from there shoulder to there hip even half greyhounds are troublesome dogs, the reason there sh#t is exactly the reason there crossed to dumb to fast i dont even think id own a half greyhound ever agian although they all caught and killed fantastically iv never seen one live over two years thats reguraly hunted" That post by allgame about sums it up imo,and i would totally agree with first x's being faulty as well. Mates have bred Greyhounds to very good lurcher bitches and very good lurcher dogs to Greyhound bitches,some reasonable dogs were produced but they still have their faults,personally i wouldn't consider anything that was half Greyhound either exept maybe a deer x grey if i had open country to run it on,as for a straight greyhound i wouldn't have one,period. Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted April 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Thanks for the replys fellas and I can definately see your point. I have watched my big 85 pound stag scoop up cotton tails around my house like they are childs play in some very tight places with fence and vehicle, horse trailers, and junk laying everywhere. I just assumed that there are probably some real good field greyhound around the 70 pound mark that could make him look silly at that game is all. Quote Link to post
BULL 100 Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Thanks for the replys fellas and I can definately see your point. I have watched my big 85 pound stag scoop up cotton tails around my house like they are childs play in some very tight places with fence and vehicle, horse trailers, and junk laying everywhere. I just assumed that there are probably some real good field greyhound around the 70 pound mark that could make him look silly at that game is all. ive had a couple of greyhounds and didnt think much off them at all ,great speed ,with no brain also im in devon we have very small fields and a slightly smaller dog is suited much better to the terrain here,as said there stamina is not as good as a lurcher ,dont forget the hybred vigour you get from an out x off a pure greyhound also. where you are dan theres probabley great open plains etc so maybe a pure grey is good over there but here its mostly small fields with high hedgrows etc ,good thread . cheers dan BULL Quote Link to post
derbylad 1 Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 ive just been given a bitch of a mate, took her out lamping with another dog sliped her just after him, i was supprised how well she did she wasnt as fast as i thought but she was quick with more fitness she could be faster, she never burnt her self out,but when the lamp was off she just kept running and eventually ran accross the field and smashed her leg into something but untill that she wasnt that bad at all and had a few close near catches for a dog thats never been out on the lamp,without a dout shell catch next time the weather is better either that or hurt her self real bad, to say the least she was as stiff as a board the day after but shes looking good now she looks a younger dog and shell be out next week mite get some pics of her ill put em up,shes about 4yo aswell Quote Link to post
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