Guest hunterside Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 hi all , will a cocker be any good for bushing for my whippet ? i dont want to go down the terrier route as i dont want it to run to ground i dont fancy digging any more ( my back and knees are knackerd) or would you suggest owt else. thanks hunterside Quote Link to post
v-max 2 Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 A good working cocker will be ideal for hunting/flushing for you. Quote Link to post
Guest hunterside Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 A good working cocker will be ideal for hunting/flushing for you. thanks v max are they easy to train ? i dont want a spot on gun dog just some thing that will bush and be busy flushing. Ive read some past topic and some say they are head stronge and some say they are a bit timid or is that the difference between show and work stuff . Quote Link to post
ferreter.al 22 Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 A good working cocker will be ideal for hunting/flushing for you. thanks v max are they easy to train ? i dont want a spot on gun dog just some thing that will bush and be busy flushing. Ive read some past topic and some say they are head stronge and some say they are a bit timid or is that the difference between show and work stuff . cockers are bang on for bushing,we use them with whippets,my blue bitch should be pregnant but its early days yet but if she is and you want a pup im in sheffield.i put her to a chocolate dog and the both have excellent peds.they respond really well to training and have big balls for rammin through brambles and scrub etc. hear they are,not the best of pics...atb Quote Link to post
Guest hunterside Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 A good working cocker will be ideal for hunting/flushing for you. thanks v max are they easy to train ? i dont want a spot on gun dog just some thing that will bush and be busy flushing. Ive read some past topic and some say they are head stronge and some say they are a bit timid or is that the difference between show and work stuff . cockers are bang on for bushing,we use them with whippets,my blue bitch should be pregnant but its early days yet but if she is and you want a pup im in sheffield.i put her to a chocolate dog and the both have excellent peds.they respond really well to training and have big balls for rammin through brambles and scrub etc. hear they are,not the best of pics...atb thats ideal just what im looking for im down the road in nottingham keep me informed and let me know a price . thanks hunterside Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Definatley go and get one or a small springer i have used springers for bushing for the last 20 odd years and cannot find any faults using this combination if you train the spaniel not to chase and work close imo their is no better hunting combination.atvb poacher3161 Quote Link to post
Guest hunterside Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Definatley go and get one or a small springer i have used springers for bushing for the last 20 odd years and cannot find any faults using this combination if you train the spaniel not to chase and work close imo their is no better hunting combination.atvb poacher3161 the more i get positive feed back the more it sounds a good idea as you said about keeping the dog close is this hard to do ? ive only kept lurchers and terriers and this is my first venture in to gun dogs and i want to try and get it right. my whippet is short of being 12 month old quick to learn and keen when would be the right time to get a pup ( i'd rather start with a pup and something older ) what would you suggest. happy hunting hs Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Definatley go and get one or a small springer i have used springers for bushing for the last 20 odd years and cannot find any faults using this combination if you train the spaniel not to chase and work close imo their is no better hunting combination.atvb poacher3161 the more i get positive feed back the more it sounds a good idea as you said about keeping the dog close is this hard to do ? ive only kept lurchers and terriers and this is my first venture in to gun dogs and i want to try and get it right. my whippet is short of being 12 month old quick to learn and keen when would be the right time to get a pup ( i'd rather start with a pup and something older ) what would you suggest. happy hunting hs hi best thing to do in my opinion is to purchase one of the gundog training books any thing by keith erlandson.and definatley start with a pup wich after time shoud learn that he is flushing rabbits for your lurcher though can be difficult to stop the spaniel chasing [bANNED TEXT] it sees another dog chasing but it can be don.I onley keep bitches for this type of work you dont seem to get jelousy as mutch [bANNED TEXT] the lurcher has caught. good luck if you decide on the combination.ps i can work my dogs wer theirs badger sets feeling more comfortable than if i had a couple of terriers for bushing.atvb Quote Link to post
ferreter.al 22 Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Definatley go and get one or a small springer i have used springers for bushing for the last 20 odd years and cannot find any faults using this combination if you train the spaniel not to chase and work close imo their is no better hunting combination.atvb poacher3161 the more i get positive feed back the more it sounds a good idea as you said about keeping the dog close is this hard to do ? ive only kept lurchers and terriers and this is my first venture in to gun dogs and i want to try and get it right. my whippet is short of being 12 month old quick to learn and keen when would be the right time to get a pup ( i'd rather start with a pup and something older ) what would you suggest. happy hunting hs hi best thing to do in my opinion is to purchase one of the gundog training books any thing by keith erlandson.and definatley start with a pup wich after time shoud learn that he is flushing rabbits for your lurcher though can be difficult to stop the spaniel chasing [bANNED TEXT] it sees another dog chasing but it can be don.I onley keep bitches for this type of work you dont seem to get jelousy as mutch [bANNED TEXT] the lurcher has caught. good luck if you decide on the combination.ps i can work my dogs wer theirs badger sets feeling more comfortable than if i had a couple of terriers for bushing.atvb some of the books are really good,but the best thing about spanials for bushing is that they just do it.you just have to fine tune it not to chase and how to work alongside you and your lurchers.etc.i will keep you posted on the pups and send you a pm [bANNED TEXT] the pups come,atvb Quote Link to post
Guest hunterside Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Definatley go and get one or a small springer i have used springers for bushing for the last 20 odd years and cannot find any faults using this combination if you train the spaniel not to chase and work close imo their is no better hunting combination.atvb poacher3161 the more i get positive feed back the more it sounds a good idea as you said about keeping the dog close is this hard to do ? ive only kept lurchers and terriers and this is my first venture in to gun dogs and i want to try and get it right. my whippet is short of being 12 month old quick to learn and keen when would be the right time to get a pup ( i'd rather start with a pup and something older ) what would you suggest. happy hunting hs hi best thing to do in my opinion is to purchase one of the gundog training books any thing by keith erlandson.and definatley start with a pup wich after time shoud learn that he is flushing rabbits for your lurcher though can be difficult to stop the spaniel chasing [bANNED TEXT] it sees another dog chasing but it can be don.I onley keep bitches for this type of work you dont seem to get jelousy as mutch [bANNED TEXT] the lurcher has caught. good luck if you decide on the combination.ps i can work my dogs wer theirs badger sets feeling more comfortable than if i had a couple of terriers for bushing.atvb some of the books are really good,but the best thing about spanials for bushing is that they just do it.you just have to fine tune it not to chase and how to work alongside you and your lurchers.etc.i will keep you posted on the pups and send you a pm [bANNED TEXT] the pups come,atvb yer nice one thanks atb hs. Quote Link to post
Dave C 63 Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 (edited) You should have no trouble with a cocker mate, as they want to work for you unlike a terrier who is out for himself. I have both terrier and a cocker cross who has terrier in her she is far more user frendly and controlable than the terrier and she also dosent hunt to far away. They are a very versitile little dog, as mine ran in a mixed pack as a bushing dog and ratting dog for her first 14 months, then in March i started training her to the gun and she is coming on very well and is alot more controlable than i ever thought i would get her with her past experiance, in the short time i have been training her she can sit, long stay, hand signals and stop on the whistle (while hunting the dummy not a rabbit yet) and retreives to hand, so she is learning the basics and i am sure the rest will come with time. Dave. Edited April 28, 2009 by Dave C Quote Link to post
Guest hunterside Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 You should have no trouble with a cocker mate, as they want to work for you unlike a terrier who is out for himself.I have both terrier and a cocker cross who has terrier in her she is far more user frendly and controlable than the terrier and she also dosent hunt to far away. They are a very versitile little dog, as mine ran in a mixed pack as a bushing dog and ratting dog for her first 14 months, then in March i started training her to the gun and she is coming on very well and is alot more controlable than i ever thought i would get her with her past experiance, in the short time i have been training her she can sit, long stay, hand signals and stop on the whistle (while hunting the dummy not a rabbit yet) and retreives to hand, so she is learning the basics and i am sure the rest will come with time. Dave. yer im fed up with terriers running to far ahead going deaf on me and worst of all going to ground it ruins a days bushing. I hunt near badger setts so the last thing i want is a dog going to ground . Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 hi all , will a cocker be any good for bushing for my whippet ? i dont want to go down the terrier route as i dont want it to run to ground i dont fancy digging any more ( my back and knees are knackerd) or would you suggest owt else. thanks huntersidepm me i have got a litter due in a months time 6 already orderd might be a couple spare sensible price as well. small springers no silly k.c price atvb Quote Link to post
Guest hunterside Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 hi all , will a cocker be any good for bushing for my whippet ? i dont want to go down the terrier route as i dont want it to run to ground i dont fancy digging any more ( my back and knees are knackerd) or would you suggest owt else. thanks huntersidepm me i have got a litter due in a months time 6 already orderd might be a couple spare sensible price as well. small springers no silly k.c price atvb thanks for that it sound interesting. Quote Link to post
j davies 8 Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Definatley go and get one or a small springer i have used springers for bushing for the last 20 odd years and cannot find any faults using this combination if you train the spaniel not to chase and work close imo their is no better hunting combination.atvb poacher3161 the more i get positive feed back the more it sounds a good idea as you said about keeping the dog close is this hard to do ? ive only kept lurchers and terriers and this is my first venture in to gun dogs and i want to try and get it right. my whippet is short of being 12 month old quick to learn and keen when would be the right time to get a pup ( i'd rather start with a pup and something older ) what would you suggest. happy hunting hs hi mate i got 2 cocker spainels one 3 near 4 and the other is 8 months old now i did not no how to train them but did it with the first one i find that you got to get them from working homes and what i did to keep him at 40 feet was use a 40 foot rope when he tried to go more i blewthe whistle did this for 3 weeks now he is wow even got him with the air gun to when i say shy he stays near me and does not move if i lie down he does not traid him to do this its in him. #the 8 month old bitch is going to be 5 times beter not started training yet but already off the lead on main road all im saying is it takes time lots of it and the other ting i never do is hit them. a saying is best to take it easy for 18 months and have 10 years free or rush it and have trouble all youe life. if you join the a field trian club lots of people there to ghepl you and they give you there time they did me and if any of them are on here thank you so much Quote Link to post
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