J Darcy 5,871 Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 no...or was preached too about it if i shot it at the end of the hunt is it legal? Only if its shot at the start of the hunt is it legal.... Quote Link to post
fireman 11,236 Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 You have to shoot when it flushes,how long that takes or when a safe shot can be taken is anyones guess,to be really legal flushing is the new word for hunting anything other than rats and rabbits, Quote Link to post
goldfinch2007 2,337 Posted January 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 Only if its shot at the start of the hunt is it legal.... thats when i slip my eagle Quote Link to post
TOPPER 1,809 Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 we used to hunt loads of mink with the terriers on the moor and somerset levels its brilliant fun but i think we got to good at it as theres not many about around our way now , shame as it was bloody good fun Quote Link to post
goldfinch2007 2,337 Posted January 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 all good things come to an end,but its shit when it happens.anypics. Quote Link to post
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 how it cant be legal il never know seeing as its one of the most destructive alien species you could ever come across. madness how true nog let it wipe out all our native wildlife,with full protection from the law,wish i was a scholar,so i could understand it im currently doing a degree in ecology and wildlife management, but it dont make it any clearer mate How they can make it wrong to control alien pests is beyond me....they may aswell give the grey squirel some sort of protection. The people that make these laws are clueless fools in suits. Leave the coutryside to those who live and work in it i say and ban every other fecker It's not illegal to kill mink. Infact the law says that if you trap one you're not allowed to re-release it. You have to kill it. Same with the grey squirrel. If you're doing ecology and wildlife management check out the Destructive Imported Animals Act 1932. The Hunting Act 2004 says your dog can't kill it... at least not on purpose. Accidents do happen. Quote Link to post
dogs-n-natives 1,182 Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 There have been good numbers of otters on this river for ever basically, even when their numbers were low nationally the old lads say there were plenty about. But I was catching 12-20 mink a year on my 4 mile stretch alone when I was keepering, and the otters were a common sight, aswel as their pad marks and shits............ so the two DEFFINATELY co-exist!! 100%!! I doubt they see eye to eye, but they will live side by side. Ask anyone that fishes/hunts/traps the Tyne, theres loads of BOTH. I now trap a much greater ammount of mink, and cover much more water. Trapping still takes most of my mink, but theres nothing better than taking them with the help of the dogs. I have found that the vast majority of mink that Ive killed (not trapped) have been found and marked by a dog. Getting them out is the tricky part! Before the ban we would have a selection of tools for different places. A Smoker, for tight drains/rocks/roots/holes, terrier for bigger spaces/hollow trees/drains, and a good stick to poke about under overhanging banks and into tree roots/stick piles etc.. When the mink bolts,ive found if its just my wee pack, we need a quick kill, or its away across the river underwater, and we soon lose it -as Im keen, but not keen enough to swim the tyne-(not the case in burns/streams), my terrier has dived under and made some f*****g excellent catches, so has my cocker spaniel, a dog that will dive is a god send! Also, standing out in the water, will help. Nowadays, there are less options available for bolting them, but as for hunting, just use two dogs to flush, and shoot the fuckers, its all good sport, and killing a pest that we can do without. Quote Link to post
dogs-n-natives 1,182 Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 .The downside was that it made the terriers unsteady with ferrets. Ive never had that problem before. My terriers arent broken to ferrets anyway, but my lurcher is and my spaniels are, as are many of my friends hunting dogs including terriers......they should know the difference. imho Quote Link to post
loftmonkey 2 Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 we had a few years ago when some anti let them loose from a fur farm - they caused a massive problem we have a poultry farm and they all ended up there? we used to hunt in and around the sheds with my lurcher and borders terriers used to be great fun. Had them in an empty battery cage once took ages to catch them in and amongst the cages. We used took block them in the sheds by stuffing all the holes up from the outside and then let the dogs in, the mink used to stay under the cages where the dogs couldn't get to them but eventually the dogs would wear them down and they would make a mistake and it was all over - can't believe you can't hunt them with dogs anymore Quote Link to post
goldfinch2007 2,337 Posted January 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 There have been good numbers of otters on this river for ever basically, even when their numbers were low nationally the old lads say there were plenty about. But I was catching 12-20 mink a year on my 4 mile stretch alone when I was keepering, and the otters were a common sight, aswel as their pad marks and shits............ so the two DEFFINATELY co-exist!! 100%!! I doubt they see eye to eye, but they will live side by side. Ask anyone that fishes/hunts/traps the Tyne, theres loads of BOTH. I now trap a much greater ammount of mink, and cover much more water. Trapping still takes most of my mink, but theres nothing better than taking them with the help of the dogs. I have found that the vast majority of mink that Ive killed (not trapped) have been found and marked by a dog. Getting them out is the tricky part! Before the ban we would have a selection of tools for different places. A Smoker, for tight drains/rocks/roots/holes, terrier for bigger spaces/hollow trees/drains, and a good stick to poke about under overhanging banks and into tree roots/stick piles etc.. When the mink bolts,ive found if its just my wee pack, we need a quick kill, or its away across the river underwater, and we soon lose it -as Im keen, but not keen enough to swim the tyne-(not the case in burns/streams), my terrier has dived under and made some f*****g excellent catches, so has my cocker spaniel, a dog that will dive is a god send! Also, standing out in the water, will help. Nowadays, there are less options available for bolting them, but as for hunting, just use two dogs to flush, and shoot the fuckers, its all good sport, and killing a pest that we can do without. thanks for the advice,when you trap them what do you use for bait,cheers. Quote Link to post
goldfinch2007 2,337 Posted January 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 we had a few years ago when some anti let them loose from a fur farm - they caused a massive problem we have a poultry farm and they all ended up there? we used to hunt in and around the sheds with my lurcher and borders terriers used to be great fun. Had them in an empty battery cage once took ages to catch them in and amongst the cages. We used took block them in the sheds by stuffing all the holes up from the outside and then let the dogs in, the mink used to stay under the cages where the dogs couldn't get to them but eventually the dogs would wear them down and they would make a mistake and it was all over - can't believe you can't hunt them with dogs anymore good crack,how many did you get. Quote Link to post
loftmonkey 2 Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 maybe a half dozen or so but great fun Quote Link to post
dogs-n-natives 1,182 Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 thanks for the advice,when you trap them what do you use for bait,cheers. I always use fresh rabbit, as ive got a ready supply, I use the guts aswell, but dont leave them in the trap for long in summer they will sharp go bad. Ive heard people getting good results with all manner of game and vermin, as well as fish. You can often get free fish heads and trimmings from a local monger. Quote Link to post
loftmonkey 2 Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 i know someone that uses tuna fish out of a can Quote Link to post
goldfinch2007 2,337 Posted January 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 (edited) thanks for the advice,when you trap them what do you use for bait,cheers. I always use fresh rabbit, as ive got a ready supply, I use the guts aswell, but dont leave them in the trap for long in summer they will sharp go bad. Ive heard people getting good results with all manner of game and vermin, as well as fish. You can often get free fish heads and trimmings from a local monger. cheers pal.do you cover the trap. Edited January 7, 2009 by goldfinch2007 Quote Link to post
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