RIFLECRAFT

[longrange 0]

RANGEFINDERS, MILLI DOTS, BULLET DROP COMPENSATORS TACKTICAL SCOPES, ETC.

what ever did we do without them?

what about good old fieldcraft ?, guesswork, kentuky windage etc,?

knowing your rifle, range zero, and so on was part of being a rifleman!

 

come on guys, if i was a roe doe, buck, stag, hind, or fox, that you had just,surrprised, say round a corner,

over a valley or hill, buy the time you had dial'd in your milli, adjusted your mag and found out what range

he or she was , i would have stuck my tounge out thum'nd my nose at you!

and BUGGERED OFF

[SportingShooter 0]

My scope stays on x8 now all the time.

 

I don't own a Rangefinder, nor a scope with a Parallax Wheel of whatever.

 

Dont know what a Bullet Drop Compensator is but I can guess

 

Rifle is zeroed at 100 yards, my ranging isn't bad, so I point, adjust and pull the trigger.

 

SS

[longrange 0]

totaly agree with you iv'e used 8 or 10 x 56 fixed power all my life, the rest is up to the shooter to find out how far, how hgh etc

never understood varie power scopes? waste of time in my opinion.

give you an example my son has a nissan skyline, he has 3 stages of boost, fast, faster! and holy sh*t

 

i wonder which setting he has it on ? runs 750 brake

[Deker 3,491]

RANGEFINDERS, MILLI DOTS, BULLET DROP COMPENSATORS TACKTICAL SCOPES, ETC.

what ever did we do without them?

what about good old fieldcraft ?, guesswork, kentuky windage etc,?

knowing your rifle, range zero, and so on was part of being a rifleman!

 

come on guys, if i was a roe doe, buck, stag, hind, or fox, that you had just,surrprised, say round a corner,

over a valley or hill, buy the time you had dial'd in your milli, adjusted your mag and found out what range

he or she was , i would have stuck my tounge out thum'nd my nose at you!

and BUGGERED OFF

 

 

 

That's why so many of the tarts on here rate the 22-250 as a great fox round...anything from about 50-250 yards just aim and shoot!!

[Guest JohnGalway]

Dont know what a Bullet Drop Compensator is but I can guess

 

It's for shooting up and down hills I believe.

 

And no, I don't have one.

[jamie g 17]

RANGEFINDERS, MILLI DOTS, BULLET DROP COMPENSATORS TACKTICAL SCOPES, ETC.

what ever did we do without them?

what about good old fieldcraft ?, guesswork, kentuky windage etc,?

knowing your rifle, range zero, and so on was part of being a rifleman!

 

come on guys, if i was a roe doe, buck, stag, hind, or fox, that you had just,surrprised, say round a corner,

over a valley or hill, buy the time you had dial'd in your milli, adjusted your mag and found out what range

he or she was , i would have stuck my tounge out thum'nd my nose at you!

and BUGGERED OFF

 

 

 

That's why so many of the tarts on here rate the 22-250 as a great fox round...anything from about 50-250 yards just aim and shoot!!

 

 

close to 300 yards if you have it over a inch high at 100

[longrange 0]

you know what they say shootings easy? its people that make it hard !

[SportingShooter 0]

Dont know what a Bullet Drop Compensator is but I can guess

 

It's for shooting up and down hills I believe.

 

And no, I don't have one.

:o :o :o :o I'm Shocked!!!

 

Must be one in that Bag of Tricks somewhere

[Mr Adventure 0]

Sorry guy's I disagree , most of the things you talk about are all spin offs from military and tactical hardware, and in the correct hands very usefull tools. Only one thing I dont like is BDC scopes (BULLET DROP COMPENSATORS) you have the scope mached to the calibre and bullet weight you use.

The majority of hunting is done upto a maximim range of 300m.

Like to see you drop a beast at 1800m? Well thats what some of our guys in Afganastan are doing and it's not beasts there aiming at.

A tactical scope is easy to adjust when its very cold and you are wearing gloves, Mildots are great and easy to use for getting the correct range also if you need to aim off using the dots you always get the same aim point ,rangefinders take all the guest work out of range finding so you get on target with the first shot and the varie power scope alows you all the benifits of fixed power but alowing you to focus and see greater distance.

 

I do agree that good old fashoned field craft counts for alot. "Dont knock them till you've tryed them"

[longrange 0]

Sorry guy's I disagree , most of the things you talk about are all spin offs from military and tactical hardware, and in the correct hands very usefull tools. Only one thing I dont like is BDC scopes (BULLET DROP COMPENSATORS) you have the scope mached to the calibre and bullet weight you use.

The majority of hunting is done upto a maximim range of 300m.

Like to see you drop a beast at 1800m? Well thats what some of our guys in Afganastan are doing and it's not beasts there aiming at.

A tactical scope is easy to adjust when its very cold and you are wearing gloves, Mildots are great and easy to use for getting the correct range also if you need to aim off using the dots you always get the same aim point ,rangefinders take all the guest work out of range finding so you get on target with the first shot and the varie power scope alows you all the benifits of fixed power but alowing you to focus and see greater distance.

 

I do agree that good old fashoned field craft counts for alot. "Dont knock them till you've tryed them"

 

I HAD the use of tactical scopes iong before they became available to the public! and yes they have thier uses

but in my opinion not in the hunting field

[SportingShooter 0]

I cant see how on earth you can dial in a scope with a parallax and Rangefinder, to the range the fox is, have the lamp in the right place, then make sure you are all sound with your Mil-Dots, and then pull the trigger without the fox being a little bit wary and moving away by which time you need to re range find the fox, re dial in the scope, reset the mildots and then pull the trigger.

 

Sounds fun don't it?

 

Learn your ranges, learn how to aim off, and get some practice in with the rifle!

 

And I won't be shooting any beasts at 1800m, 300 yards is not that difficult to range find with your own eyes.

 

Regards

SS

[longrange 0]

I cant see how on earth you can dial in a scope with a parallax and Rangefinder, to the range the fox is, have the lamp in the right place, then make sure you are all sound with your Mil-Dots, and then pull the trigger without the fox being a little bit wary and moving away by which time you need to re range find the fox, re dial in the scope, reset the mildots and then pull the trigger.

 

Sounds fun don't it?

 

Learn your ranges, learn how to aim off, and get some practice in with the rifle!

 

And I won't be shooting any beasts at 1800m, 300 yards is not that difficult to range find with your own eyes.

 

Regards

SS

 

this is what i said at the beginning of this post

[Deker 3,491]

Sorry guy's I disagree , most of the things you talk about are all spin offs from military and tactical hardware, and in the correct hands very usefull tools. Only one thing I dont like is BDC scopes (BULLET DROP COMPENSATORS) you have the scope mached to the calibre and bullet weight you use.

The majority of hunting is done upto a maximim range of 300m.

Like to see you drop a beast at 1800m? Well thats what some of our guys in Afganastan are doing and it's not beasts there aiming at.

A tactical scope is easy to adjust when its very cold and you are wearing gloves, Mildots are great and easy to use for getting the correct range also if you need to aim off using the dots you always get the same aim point ,rangefinders take all the guest work out of range finding so you get on target with the first shot and the varie power scope alows you all the benifits of fixed power but alowing you to focus and see greater distance.

 

I do agree that good old fashoned field craft counts for alot. "Dont knock them till you've tryed them"

 

 

I'm not that convinced the post was knocking all the aids available....just trying to make the point of fieldcrafts,.....and at 1800 metres the target will tend to give you time as they don't know they are in the crosshairs!!

[SNAP SHOT 194]

i agree riflecraft has to be learned, but if the tools mentioned make life that little bit easier then i'm all for them, as for fiddleing, not once you have a system in place, i agree also with not letting what your shooting know your there, hence giving you time to range and dial, Now once you start to pass the 300 yard mark with fox then the rangefinder comes into play........ plus the fox thinks he's at a safe distance and doesn't pay much attention to the light.....range adjust BOOM.......it's that simple,

Here's how i do it,

find out the drop of the bullet to say 450 yards, write the range and drop in clicks onto a small sticker,this then gets placed into the butler creek scope cover, range, look at the sticker with a little light not too bright the better..... and count the clicks as the turrets come to the place you want them.

now with practice once you range you will know the drops from memory...........i can assure with with time it will happen.......

most of the time now the lamp only comes on when i have the rangefinder on the fox or close to him, light off, dial in and light on, boom...........

tell that to the fox i got last night at..............387 yards......... oh i didn't need it for the one that ran in like a train too 60 yards......

[Yokel Matt 918]

The one thing that really used to wind me up was faffing with the PA on my old .22. Thats about as technical as i have got having said that i have not doubt that there is certainly a place for technical wizardry for those long shots where time is not so much of an issue and accuracy is important. I think if there is something that makes these shots more accurate that can only be a good thing when you consider the time its going to take you to get to where the quarry was... especially if you middle the poor bugger. Then again coming to rely on this extra equipment is probably not great either as the having the confidance to make a holdover and windage call yourself could make all the difference shoud an opportunity arises.

 

Having said that if i had some good fox country on my permission... i'd get all the toys