prefered terrier work

[Guest WILF]

and better than the mincing around the show ring

 

How very dare you!! ..............It takes me hours to boot black my dog, blow dry, comb...........and the sheer pride when you get that ribbon takes a mans breath away

 

You did say blow DRY your dog Wilf? I'm sure you also spend as much time with your own appearence to ensure a "place" in the "ring"........

 

No need old chap........any of the lads will tell you I am the best looking fecker on here by a country mile

[BODBRAM 0]

Personally I feel that terriers were initially bred to hunt rabbits and rats. Terriers were bred to irrsdicate vermin and to control the rabbit population. As the year s went on terriers became fox hunters but I dont think this was thier inotial reason for breeding. However in saying that a good working terrier be it Jack, Patterdale or Lakey does love a dig and it is now their main reason to be bred. From my point of view i love a good all round hunting dog. I have a Jack who is a ratter, rabbiter and will hunt and retrieve pheasant while working with a pointer or springer. When it comes to game he has a lovely soft mouth but he is a typical Jack with a rat, He shakes the shit out of them My pride and joy 10 years old cost me 20pound 10 years ago.

[BODBRAM 0]

why dev if a dog works its a working dog and what about people who hunt for food i know my family did at one time when you do that there very much working dogs i understand what your saying i thought terrier means earth dog but not all dogs can bush to a good standard i dont understand why its just sport to most digging is sport but there dogs aint sporting there workers ?????? when a lot of people eat rabbits they dont eat fox i know its pest controlbut if a dog works its a working dog in the tight cover i work it must be like going to ground anyway and would a dog that hunts fox above ground be sporting or working

 

if it works its a working dog

if a terrier doesnt work below ground and stay untill dug its NOT a working terrier, lurchers ,hounds , springers etc hunt above ground and thats their job so they can be regarded as working dogs but a terriers job is below ground. that is WORK for a terrier , anything above ground for a terrier is sport, simple as that.

 

 

Sorry Dev,

But you are wrong if a terrier works it is a worker. If I work I am a worker it is as simple as that. Terriers were not initially bred to hunt below ground this was a trait brought in later. Work is work just because you dont rate it does not make it wrong or any less than what it is.

[dfee 1]

Sorry Dev,

But you are wrong if a terrier works it is a worker. If I work I am a worker it is as simple as that. Terriers were not initially bred to hunt below ground this was a trait brought in later. Work is work just because you dont rate it does not make it wrong or any less than what it is.

and how exactly do you no they wernt bred for earth work first and foremost.and ground game was brought in afterwards????

[Guest dee mac]

Personally I feel that terriers were initially bred to hunt rabbits and rats. Terriers were bred to irrsdicate vermin and to control the rabbit population. As the year s went on terriers became fox hunters but I dont think this was thier inotial reason for breeding. However in saying that a good working terrier be it Jack, Patterdale or Lakey does love a dig and it is now their main reason to be bred. From my point of view i love a good all round hunting dog. I have a Jack who is a ratter, rabbiter and will hunt and retrieve pheasant while working with a pointer or springer. When it comes to game he has a lovely soft mouth but he is a typical Jack with a rat, He shakes the shit out of them My pride and joy 10 years old cost me 20pound 10 years ago.

if you want to hunt rabbits from cover get yourself a spaniel springer or cocker i have been reared with these dogs since i was born and there is no terrier alive that can out perform any of these dogs in beating game from thick cover so thats why when i lift my gun i let out a spaniel if i lift my digging tools i let out my terrier simple as that a working terrier must work below ground and stay till dug a terrier that wont go to ground but hunts above it is a sporting terrier simple as that

[dev 227]

why dev if a dog works its a working dog and what about people who hunt for food i know my family did at one time when you do that there very much working dogs i understand what your saying i thought terrier means earth dog but not all dogs can bush to a good standard i dont understand why its just sport to most digging is sport but there dogs aint sporting there workers ?????? when a lot of people eat rabbits they dont eat fox i know its pest controlbut if a dog works its a working dog in the tight cover i work it must be like going to ground anyway and would a dog that hunts fox above ground be sporting or working

 

if it works its a working dog

if a terrier doesnt work below ground and stay untill dug its NOT a working terrier, lurchers ,hounds , springers etc hunt above ground and thats their job so they can be regarded as working dogs but a terriers job is below ground. that is WORK for a terrier , anything above ground for a terrier is sport, simple as that.

 

 

Sorry Dev,

But you are wrong if a terrier works it is a worker. If I work I am a worker it is as simple as that. Terriers were not initially bred to hunt below ground this was a trait brought in later. Work is work just because you dont rate it does not make it wrong or any less than what it is.

sorry BODRAM but im not wrong!!! if it works its a worker, i totally agree with this statement, but running after rabbits is NOT work, a bushing terrier is NOT A WORKING TERRIER!!!!!!! a hunting terrier? yes, but a worker? NO!!

[clachan 72]

why dev if a dog works its a working dog and what about people who hunt for food i know my family did at one time when you do that there very much working dogs i understand what your saying i thought terrier means earth dog but not all dogs can bush to a good standard i dont understand why its just sport to most digging is sport but there dogs aint sporting there workers ?????? when a lot of people eat rabbits they dont eat fox i know its pest controlbut if a dog works its a working dog in the tight cover i work it must be like going to ground anyway and would a dog that hunts fox above ground be sporting or working

 

if it works its a working dog

if a terrier doesnt work below ground and stay untill dug its NOT a working terrier, lurchers ,hounds , springers etc hunt above ground and thats their job so they can be regarded as working dogs but a terriers job is below ground. that is WORK for a terrier , anything above ground for a terrier is sport, simple as that.

 

 

Sorry Dev,

But you are wrong if a terrier works it is a worker. If I work I am a worker it is as simple as that. Terriers were not initially bred to hunt below ground this was a trait brought in later. Work is work just because you dont rate it does not make it wrong or any less than what it is.

sorry BODRAM but im not wrong!!! if it works its a worker, i totally agree with this statement, but running after rabbits is NOT work, a bushing terrier is NOT A WORKING TERRIER!!!!!!! a hunting terrier? yes, but a worker? NO!!

Im with you Dev.

[the_stig 6,614]

gotta be earth work nothin like it - back in the day of the queer fella fox was seen as an easy day out .. havin said that my digging days are about over i do the odd invite now days and keep my small ratting team busy .. old age and dodgey back i`d call mine hunters not workers - i would`nt knock anyone thats gets out with the terriers whatever they hunt

[fireman 11,331]

Well i'd say a lot of it is down to where you get to hunt,i have terriers and hunt what i can when i can.If i had dozens of earths to do i would be digging all the time,but i don't so i bush/rat most of the time but i will have a dig when the oppertunity arises with the same terriers i bush with.My dogs won't push on to a rabbit and i can call them out of a rabbit hole if they do show interest,where as if a fox is at home there's no calling them out,they stay.I do have the biggest smile on my face after a dig but if it was only digging i did my dogs would spend most of there time at home,i also use one of mine as a ferreting partner as he just pins the rabbits instead of smashing them.Don't know what to call them as yes they have gone to ground(makes them a worker )but are used as bushing/ratters(doesn't make them workers )still a little controversy a couple of plummers can handle

[Guest blackntan]

why dev if a dog works its a working dog and what about people who hunt for food i know my family did at one time when you do that there very much working dogs i understand what your saying i thought terrier means earth dog but not all dogs can bush to a good standard i dont understand why its just sport to most digging is sport but there dogs aint sporting there workers ?????? when a lot of people eat rabbits they dont eat fox i know its pest controlbut if a dog works its a working dog in the tight cover i work it must be like going to ground anyway and would a dog that hunts fox above ground be sporting or working

 

if it works its a working dog

if a terrier doesnt work below ground and stay untill dug its NOT a working terrier, lurchers ,hounds , springers etc hunt above ground and thats their job so they can be regarded as working dogs but a terriers job is below ground. that is WORK for a terrier , anything above ground for a terrier is sport, simple as that.

 

 

Sorry Dev,

But you are wrong if a terrier works it is a worker. If I work I am a worker it is as simple as that. Terriers were not initially bred to hunt below ground this was a trait brought in later. Work is work just because you dont rate it does not make it wrong or any less than what it is.

sorry BODRAM but im not wrong!!! if it works its a worker, i totally agree with this statement, but running after rabbits is NOT work, a bushing terrier is NOT A WORKING TERRIER!!!!!!! a hunting terrier? yes, but a worker? NO!!

For my own interest i visit the museums in any city iam in i always try to find the sporting paintings of old, you will find in many hunting scenes there are terriers , in the shooting scenes spaniel , and pointer types , some of the art goes back to 1800s , hounds with terrier, not to bush but bolt, , people diversify dog breeds dogs will adapt to what ever task man puts in front of it, Terra fir-ma = ground or earth, TERRIER EARTH DOG END OF, they can and will bush and are good at it but were not bred for it THERE IS A PAINTING 1823 CAINS AND DANDY DINMONTS GOING TO GROUND FOR RABBITS Edited October 15, 2008 by blackntan

[dev 227]

gotta be earth work nothin like it - back in the day of the queer fella fox was seen as an easy day out .. havin said that my digging days are about over i do the odd invite now days and keep my small ratting team busy .. old age and dodgey back i`d call mine hunters not workers - i would`nt knock anyone thats gets out with the terriers whatever they hunt

dont get me wrong im not knocking anyone or running down their terriers , i just feel that the title WORKING TERRIER is a hard earned title,im definatly not trying to put down all other types of hunting with terriers but, i feel that ONLY earth work deserves the title of a WORKING TERRIER

[bigdan 11]

people say running a lurcher on daytime hares in jan/feb is the ultimate test of a dog but most rabbiting dogs wouldnt be able but if there good rabbiters there still called workers

 

a fox is a test of a terrier if i had a fox dog that didnt make it . it wouldnt be a worker its a jacker and a jacker will not bush to hunt find kill to a extent i need any mongrol can not do it either i work really thick cover running throu them runs must reasemble a tunnell on a den anyway i expected a hard terrier to work were i work mine are part cocker springers are no good for the terrain here ive tryed them have to be a small tough little thing sort of resemble patterdales i think terriers that are alowed to hunt use there nose ear experience make wonderfull dogs and will hunt as good as any breed of dog

 

it wont be for ayear or two but i'll breed my bitch i'll give a puppy to a digging lad of here for free to bring it on and try it i'll put money on it in the right hands these will make as good as any digging terrier from other lines there hard dogs that do there job never turn down a challenge i think worker to worker breed pick the right dogs for what your looking for your get what you want it depends how there brought on and there given the right chance

[the_stig 6,614]

gotta be earth work nothin like it - back in the day of the queer fella fox was seen as an easy day out .. havin said that my digging days are about over i do the odd invite now days and keep my small ratting team busy .. old age and dodgey back i`d call mine hunters not workers - i would`nt knock anyone thats gets out with the terriers whatever they hunt

dont get me wrong im not knocking anyone or running down their terriers , i just feel that the title WORKING TERRIER is a hard earned title,im definatly not trying to put down all other types of hunting with terriers but, i feel that ONLY earth work deserves the title of a WORKING TERRIER

dont get me wrong dev i whr`nt sayin you whr knockin anyone .. jus saying i would`nt

[BODBRAM 0]

why dev if a dog works its a working dog and what about people who hunt for food i know my family did at one time when you do that there very much working dogs i understand what your saying i thought terrier means earth dog but not all dogs can bush to a good standard i dont understand why its just sport to most digging is sport but there dogs aint sporting there workers ?????? when a lot of people eat rabbits they dont eat fox i know its pest controlbut if a dog works its a working dog in the tight cover i work it must be like going to ground anyway and would a dog that hunts fox above ground be sporting or working

 

if it works its a working dog

if a terrier doesnt work below ground and stay untill dug its NOT a working terrier, lurchers ,hounds , springers etc hunt above ground and thats their job so they can be regarded as working dogs but a terriers job is below ground. that is WORK for a terrier , anything above ground for a terrier is sport, simple as that.

 

 

Sorry Dev,

But you are wrong if a terrier works it is a worker. If I work I am a worker it is as simple as that. Terriers were not initially bred to hunt below ground this was a trait brought in later. Work is work just because you dont rate it does not make it wrong or any less than what it is.

sorry BODRAM but im not wrong!!! if it works its a worker, i totally agree with this statement, but running after rabbits is NOT work, a bushing terrier is NOT A WORKING TERRIER!!!!!!! a hunting terrier? yes, but a worker? NO!!

 

I see your point now Dev i thought you were completely undermining any other terrier hunting other than foxing. I thought you didnt class rabbiting or ratting as hunting at all.

[BODBRAM 0]

Personally I feel that terriers were initially bred to hunt rabbits and rats. Terriers were bred to irrsdicate vermin and to control the rabbit population. As the year s went on terriers became fox hunters but I dont think this was thier inotial reason for breeding. However in saying that a good working terrier be it Jack, Patterdale or Lakey does love a dig and it is now their main reason to be bred. From my point of view i love a good all round hunting dog. I have a Jack who is a ratter, rabbiter and will hunt and retrieve pheasant while working with a pointer or springer. When it comes to game he has a lovely soft mouth but he is a typical Jack with a rat, He shakes the shit out of them My pride and joy 10 years old cost me 20pound 10 years ago.

if you want to hunt rabbits from cover get yourself a spaniel springer or cocker i have been reared with these dogs since i was born and there is no terrier alive that can out perform any of these dogs in beating game from thick cover so thats why when i lift my gun i let out a spaniel if i lift my digging tools i let out my terrier simple as that a working terrier must work below ground and stay till dug a terrier that wont go to ground but hunts above it is a sporting terrier simple as that

 

Hello Dee Mac,

I have a springer myself a good strong bitch. I will agreee these dogs are better for hunting cover, depending on the terrain a good Jack is hard to beat maybe i have only hunted with good terriers but its hard beat the lil fuckers. Killing instinct is so strong in them. Obviously a wide open field would not suit a small blocky Jack with staffie in him, like my lad but they are animals through a ditch. That cannot be questioned.