ferrets and freedom

[ratman 1 0]

I think a certain amount of freedom is needed for any animal if it's to be kept humanely!My ferrets get free roam and I even let them loose in the woods where I live, as long as there'e one person to keep track of each ferret. I think it's probably good to hone their instincts.A ferret kept locked up is more likely to go feral I think from shere cabin fever and boredom! Ferrets love play and often need lots of room to do so properly. Plus if they assosciate you with freedom and fun, they'll only love you all the more and (maybe) look more faviourably upon your hands.

Im sorry, but what an utter load of b******s, that sounds like something a pet keeper would say, so all these ferrets I have in cages will turn feral will they

Iam glad im not the only nut for freedom Ginette would like to know if you work your ferret and if so do you use atracking device? I dont because there is no need and i think that is because they are free to roam

no need for a locator cant think much of your ferts then, thats all I can say

who do you think you are saying that i cant think much of my FERRETS you do not know me  my ferrets are very happy  and i have been working 30 years so i think you talk  :censored:I HAVE A 9 YEAR OLD JILL SHE HAS WORKED FROM THE AGE OF 3 MONTHS SO WHO KNOWS MY FERRETSNOT YOU SO KEEP YOUR UNFOUNDED AND UNHELPFUL COMMENT TO YOURSELF!

you havn't learned much in 30 years then have you if you are working your baby ferrets from the age of 12 weeks ... how rediculouse they vare neither physiaclly or mentally preperad for work at such a young age .........can you clarify what you mean by ''free to roam'' and why does this mean that you dont need to use a locater (the proper name for a tracking device  ) ...........

my ferrets have a 15x30ft enclosure with a sheltered area warm and dry for their bed, they are not kept in cages, they are free to roam whenever they want!

African tribesmen are not called locators nor were American Indians, they were called TRACKERS, so you say tomAto and I say tomato, and by the way I dont recall asking for your opinion anyway

 

feck me i am sorry i gave you my opinion NOT ... what the feck has an african tracker or native american indian or tracker dog or jungle tracking scout got to do with a piece of mechanical equipment that it used to LOCATE a ferret underground .... i dont care how you pronounce words the correct name is a mark 1 mark 2 or mark 3 locator .... you dont know a great deal about actually working your ferrets do you fella .................

I wouldnt call it an opinion I would call it a personal attack

Edited September 18, 2008 by ratman 1

[Ginette 0]

WHOA down boys!

Okay it seems this may be a sticky area.

When I said that ferrets must be allowed to roam free, I merely meant some regular out-of-hutch/court time. Mine get out once a day for about an hour and I'm currently building a court so even that may not be REALLY necessary coz its gonna be big!

BUT if a ferret is being worked regularly I class this as the best roaming they could have! Duh, they love it! I was merely referring to some of my experiences.

I got a jill a few years back from a fisherman. When he was offshore a few weeks at a time his ferrets were not even so much as handled as his wife was scared and would just throw in the food.

This is what I meant by cabin fever.

Up my way there are a lot of ferret owners who take them out a coupla times then lose the interest.

As for working them Ratman, I'm a complete newbie at ferreting but have had ferrets for a good few years.

I WILL be using a locator, probably on each ferret as I begin. Any suggestions to the best type are appreciated.

Also my ferrets are only 10 weeks old, my first kits, so when should I start them off.

 

I don't know everything on ferrets and don't claim to. What works for one person may not for another.

[socks 32,253]

I think a certain amount of freedom is needed for any animal if it's to be kept humanely!My ferrets get free roam and I even let them loose in the woods where I live, as long as there'e one person to keep track of each ferret. I think it's probably good to hone their instincts.A ferret kept locked up is more likely to go feral I think from shere cabin fever and boredom! Ferrets love play and often need lots of room to do so properly. Plus if they assosciate you with freedom and fun, they'll only love you all the more and (maybe) look more faviourably upon your hands.

Im sorry, but what an utter load of b******s, that sounds like something a pet keeper would say, so all these ferrets I have in cages will turn feral will they

Iam glad im not the only nut for freedom Ginette would like to know if you work your ferret and if so do you use atracking device? I dont because there is no need and i think that is because they are free to roam

no need for a locator cant think much of your ferts then, thats all I can say

who do you think you are saying that i cant think much of my FERRETS you do not know me  my ferrets are very happy  and i have been working 30 years so i think you talk  :censored:I HAVE A 9 YEAR OLD JILL SHE HAS WORKED FROM THE AGE OF 3 MONTHS SO WHO KNOWS MY FERRETSNOT YOU SO KEEP YOUR UNFOUNDED AND UNHELPFUL COMMENT TO YOURSELF!

you havn't learned much in 30 years then have you if you are working your baby ferrets from the age of 12 weeks ... how rediculouse they vare neither physiaclly or mentally preperad for work at such a young age .........can you clarify what you mean by ''free to roam'' and why does this mean that you dont need to use a locater (the proper name for a tracking device  ) ...........

my ferrets have a 15x30ft enclosure with a sheltered area warm and dry for their bed, they are not kept in cages, they are free to roam whenever they want!

African tribesmen are not called locators nor were American Indians, they were called TRACKERS, so you say tomAto and I say tomato, and by the way I dont recall asking for your opinion anyway

 

feck me i am sorry i gave you my opinion NOT ... what the feck has an african tracker or native american indian or tracker dog or jungle tracking scout got to do with a piece of mechanical equipment that it used to LOCATE a ferret underground .... i dont care how you pronounce words the correct name is a mark 1 mark 2 or mark 3 locator .... you dont know a great deal about actually working your ferrets do you fella .................

I wouldnt call it an opinion I would call it a personal attack

 

a personal attack ... you are a sensitive soul arnt you ... if i was to personally attack you verbally i would have started off with something like .... listen knobrot ... or feckwit or asswipe or words to that effect ... i didnt i merely stated that i believe you dont really work your ferrets ... you claim to start kits working at 12 weeks of age and you dont know the correct name for a ferret locater ................

[socks 32,253]

WHOA down boys!

Okay it seems this may be a sticky area.

When I said that ferrets must be allowed to roam free, I merely meant some regular out-of-hutch/court time. Mine get out once a day for about an hour and I'm currently building a court so even that may not be REALLY necessary coz its gonna be big!

BUT if a ferret is being worked regularly I class this as the best roaming they could have! Duh, they love it! I was merely referring to some of my experiences.

I got a jill a few years back from a fisherman. When he was offshore a few weeks at a time his ferrets were not even so much as handled as his wife was scared and would just throw in the food.

This is what I meant by cabin fever.

Up my way there are a lot of ferret owners who take them out a coupla times then lose the interest.

As for working them Ratman, I'm a complete newbie at ferreting but have had ferrets for a good few years.

I WILL be using a locator, probably on each ferret as I begin. Any suggestions to the best type are appreciated.

Also my ferrets are only 10 weeks old, my first kits, so when should I start them off.

 

I don't know everything on ferrets and don't claim to. What works for one person may not for another.

 

deben have the monopoly on ferret locaters the mark 1 or the mark 3 are your best bet its up to you ... i have just bought a mark 3 set myself and am about to put my mark 1 boxes and collers on e bay ..... as for working age you need to wait untill the kits are 6 months old really so that they are physically and mentally mature to handle a big old buck rabbit in a stop end ...........

[Malt 379]

African tribesmen are not called locators nor were American Indians, they were called TRACKERS, so you say tomAto and I say tomato, and by the way I dont recall asking for your opinion anyway

 

feck me i am sorry i gave you my opinion NOT ... what the feck has an african tracker or native american indian or tracker dog or jungle tracking scout got to do with a piece of mechanical equipment that it used to LOCATE a ferret underground .... i dont care how you pronounce words the correct name is a mark 1 mark 2 or mark 3 locator .... you dont know a great deal about actually working your ferrets do you fella .................

I've never heard of a Deben Tracker come to think of it.

 

What a load of shite, comparing a human hunter to a piece of technology designed to LOCATE ferrets underground. Have you got a dictionary? If so, look at the definitions of Track & Locate, I'm sure you'll find they have different meanings.

 

Follow & Find, they don't have the same meanings, do they?

 

Oh, and if you don't want peoples opinions when you post, don't post on an open forum, people have the right to say what they like on here....

[ratman 1 0]

you havent learned much in 30 years

you dont know a great deal about actually working ferrets do you fella

 

i think they are statments that attack

 

socks if we were posting the conversation would have been different at 12 weeks i flush the set first

[socks 32,253]

you havent learned much in 30 years

you dont know a great deal about actually working ferrets do you fella

 

i think they are statments that attack

 

socks if we were posting the conversation would have been different at 12 weeks i flush the set first

 

what the point in sending a baby ferret into an empty warren ??? thats not going toteach it anything ... and what would happen if the kit fell down a 2 foot drop ??? with no locator on you wouldnt be able to find it and it would starve to death .... as i said you know nothing about working ferrets so give up trying to answer questions you know nothing about you are starting to make yourself look a little silly fella ...........

[stubby 175]

if members are gonning to reply to posts, can they please just use the "add reply" button, rather than the "reply" button, as theres really no need to duplicate the same pictures every time, if you want to quote someone, deleate the pictures from the quote used before posting,

 

as for a indian tracker, relying on his bushcraft skills to track, fair point, but how do you track a ferret underground without a locator

if you want to play the waiting game, fair play to you, but what happens if the ferret does not appear after a few hours, how would any person, even an indian tracker, locate that lost ferret

[ratman 1 0]

i think the grounds that we work are totally different, i stick to small sets because i work on my own+one dog+

one ferret the heated debate was caused by people judging other peoples methods, as if there is no other way of doing it at the end of the day its horses for coarses

[socks 32,253]

it doesnt matter whether you are working a 100 hole warren or a 1 hole bury there could still be a drop away or a shelf .... but you knew that with all your experience didnt you .................

[Guest on the hill]

thats why i dont like doing rocky burrows, i tend to stay away from the ones formed by boulders!! leave the guy alone lol he wasnt meaning an indian tracker ya natsy bunch, you knew what he was talking about just didnt come out right, i wouldnt leave the ferrets a free roam myself though

[Coatesy900 0]

I drink the blood of your conflict.

[Malt 379]

I drink the blood of your conflict.

Ah, so you're a Goth? Explains a lot.............