Jibbers

[DIGGIT 6]

Just wondering how others deal with dogs that jibb on old red? Recently had this problem on a 2 yr old bullx.

 

 

Wee bit more detail would be good...was it dogs first fox? was he injured?etc etc

 

He's pulled two, this was his second fox on top he killed the first without much effort, this one bit him on the back leg, once he'd been biten he didnt want to know and just danced around when he stopped it. this dog is a lump and has done a lot of other terrier work. But he hasnt seemed to get the nack on old red. Just wondered if any one has had this problem before and if it ever got any better. My first thoughts have been lead treatment. But he has been handy for other jobs so far. Would just seem a shame.

 

 

go with your mate let his dog take most of the stick, then when old red is on his last legs let your dog to do the rest.

Do this 3 or 4 times, 8out of 10 times this will fix it.

 

just take your time with him or your f@#k him up.

 

let me know how you get on

Edited August 20, 2008 by DIGGIT

[sikastag_1 689]

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Edited August 28, 2019 by grant_c

[scent 509]

none of my buisness really but i think people on here have the patience of a 1 year old, gonna shoot the dog because he aint taking a fox when hes only been tried once or twice, and i bet youse were all sex gods your first time, i know a lad who has a dog that is great on everything but was "jibbing" as you call it, you might have "gave him led" well the dog slaughters foxes, i know a wheaten cross that was highly strung etc now its a f****n belter, i know a bitsa lurcher at 2 who would clear a field, whos now a belter, a whippet that was a bag of bones and nerves when someone got it at 7 months old is taking fox (yes a whippet) if you raise a dog until hes 2 years old i would keep trying you could keep rearing dogs until their 2 years old and it might take X amount of dogs to get what you want, keep the dog and put the time in it will come along if not then least youve tried as they say patience is a virtu.

well i have to admit im my case i kept the dog for 2 year so if he wasnt goin to do it after 2 year i reckoned he wouldn do it all

 

 

 

some might not mate as we all know some dogs just aint got it, but half the battle is entering the dog correctly, i wouldnt shift a dog at 2 most will say it should be takin them at 2 etc, some just cant be bothered waiting and trying and the dog f****n about and doin this wrong and that wrong so just get rid of it and each to their own we all do things differently, in all the cases iv seen perseverance has paid off so if i was in this position id be out as many nights a week as i could tryin to correct the faults.

personally i wouldn start a dog on fox single handed til he was 18 months my own dog was 3.5 when he went to someone off the site

[lucky 578]

i always start them with an experienced dog, give them plenty doubled up to start and keep them winning, but i expect them to be single handed by 2 y/o...

you can tell usually when the dog is ready for one on it's own, but some never even get that far, you can perservere for ever but if it's not there it's not going to happen, and this is the case with 90% of dogs imo....

doubleing up for to long leads them to rely on the other dog, and i've seen loads that look the part, and even act the part when in the company of another dog, but put them out on there own and there shite....

try the dog with another dog if you wish, but i think once they have give up on the job once, it's always in there mind to do it again when things get a little tough for them....

it's your dog so you have to make the decisions though...

[Guest WILF]

Agree with lucky, you can only try for so long........depends on if you can live with the faults if it is good for the other work it does.

[Guest Leveller]

depends on if you can live with the faults if it is good for the other work it does.

 

That's your good ladies philosophy then?

[kirstysdad 827]

once they jack their hard to get back and being a bull cross and 2 years old you might not be able to try it again on its own not doubled up as this will give the dog false confidence and even a poor dog will join in with another dog had a very good bitch jack on me last year she had seen to much work and just jacked give her a few more goes as i knew the breeding was spot on but still would not do it so give it to a lad of this site for rabbiting

[DUCKWING 302]

WELL LUCKY ,

 

I THINK YOU ABOUT NAILED IT ....................

 

THE FACT IS ............. THE DOGS PROBABLY 3 TIMES THE WEIGHT OF THE FOX , A BLOODY GOOD ADVANTAGE !................ AND SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE THE FOX EASILY ENOUGH , HELL ............ THESE TYPE OF THREADS REALLY DO MAKE ME ADMIRE MY TERRIERS EVEN MORE

 

CONFIDENCE ? ......... YES ......... ALWAYS A GOOD THING ........... BUT I DONT RUN ANY OF MINE DOUBLED UP AS A CHOICE ..... WHEN " THE DOG " SHOWS ME THAT ITS READY I WILL ENTER IT , .... NOT WHEN IAM READY ....... SIMPLE AS THAT

 

BULL CROSSES ARE DECIDEDLY DIFFERENT IN THERE ATTITUDES AND ENTERING .............. MAINLY COMING FROM THE " TYPE / STRAIN " OF BULL USED ....... SOME STRAINS CAN BE LATE STARTERS OTHERS ARE " GAMEING UP " EARLY , STAFFORDS ARE USUALLY QUITE LATE .......... THAT DOESNT MEAN WORSE , JUST SLOWER MATURING .

 

THE TROUBLE IS ....... THERE ARE LOADS OF BULL X LITTERS BEING BRED FROM ANY OLD BULL TERRIER

 

AND ..............

 

ONE THING IS FOR CERTAIN .................. ALL BULL TERRIERS ARENT BORN EQUAL .....

 

GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR DOG

 

DUCKWING

[martin 332]

none of my buisness really but i think people on here have the patience of a 1 year old, gonna shoot the dog because he aint taking a fox when hes only been tried once or twice, and i bet youse were all sex gods your first time, i know a lad who has a dog that is great on everything but was "jibbing" as you call it, you might have "gave him led" well the dog slaughters foxes, i know a wheaten cross that was highly strung etc now its a f****n belter, i know a bitsa lurcher at 2 who would clear a field, whos now a belter, a whippet that was a bag of bones and nerves when someone got it at 7 months old is taking fox (yes a whippet) if you raise a dog until hes 2 years old i would keep trying you could keep rearing dogs until their 2 years old and it might take X amount of dogs to get what you want, keep the dog and put the time in it will come along if not then least youve tried as they say patience is a virtu.

 

.............100% AGREE!!!

[Guest WILF]

depends on if you can live with the faults if it is good for the other work it does.

 

That's your good ladies philosophy then?

 

HA, HA..............Messer ...........I will have you know I am a fecking breeding machine

[Guest Leveller]

More like a fecking bread maker

[threbb 0]

double it back up , ,

Have thought of that, but he is my only big lurcher, the small bitch just gets a pasting and injures easily. I have got a mate who has offered to help out with his dog. would this improve my dog?? suppose it would boost confidence?

Give it a chance if you like but my experience is he will jib again sometime.He may do ok inbetween but he will eventually jib again.A fox shouldnt be much trouble to a bullcross but I think they should all start doubled so when they get that first shock they have back up.Dont forget dogs are pack animals. Having said that some are also good actors and make a brave show when there mates are there but when on another nght they are single handed they can simply walk away and when they do they have the look of shame because they know they have bottled.

[moggs 18]

none of my buisness really but i think people on here have the patience of a 1 year old, gonna shoot the dog because he aint taking a fox when hes only been tried once or twice, and i bet youse were all sex gods your first time, i know a lad who has a dog that is great on everything but was "jibbing" as you call it, you might have "gave him led" well the dog slaughters foxes, i know a wheaten cross that was highly strung etc now its a f****n belter, i know a bitsa lurcher at 2 who would clear a field, whos now a belter, a whippet that was a bag of bones and nerves when someone got it at 7 months old is taking fox (yes a whippet) if you raise a dog until hes 2 years old i would keep trying you could keep rearing dogs until their 2 years old and it might take X amount of dogs to get what you want, keep the dog and put the time in it will come along if not then least youve tried as they say patience is a virtu.

well i have to admit im my case i kept the dog for 2 year so if he wasnt goin to do it after 2 year i reckoned he wouldn do it all

 

 

 

some might not mate as we all know some dogs just aint got it, but half the battle is entering the dog correctly, i wouldnt shift a dog at 2 most will say it should be takin them at 2 etc, some just cant be bothered waiting and trying and the dog f****n about and doin this wrong and that wrong so just get rid of it and each to their own we all do things differently, in all the cases iv seen perseverance has paid off so if i was in this position id be out as many nights a week as i could tryin to correct the faults.

 

Nah mate i would never pass a dog on that aint doing what it should, or aint doing what i want it too. it'l stay in my field well burried. The dog has been entered correctly, he was 10 months pulling his first thing but that was a freak accident and he'd finished it off in a very good time. I can see how this aggression isn't passed on to all game he's pointed at. I am going to persevere coz he's a cracking dog and took 3 bunnies last nyt no problem hunted up to them and caught. Its just a case now of suck it and see.

[whip 1]

all i know is you don't have to make many excuses for good dog, and the others are best doing another job. whip

[Guest ooty]

pet home!! end of!!!