when to start

[howard 0]

when the air is cold and the earths are holding start then

[sikastag_1 689]

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[Guest whitser]

So Grant do you class shooting cubs just leaving the den as sport? I'm talking about cubs just a few weeks old.

no one agrees with that i dont think. if lads do shoot vixens the should let the local terrierman know. least he could find the earth and dispatch the cubs humanely. better that we support each other rather then argue between ourselves.

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[birdman6 10]

when the hunting with dogs bill was passed i remember watching something on the tele. they had hunting folk a one side and shooting folk at the other side and they were trying to turn then against each other. we need to stick together don't give those b***ards anything to use against us. no field sports no countryside.

[sikastag_1 689]

birdman6 said:

when the hunting with dogs bill was passed i remember watching something on the tele. they had hunting folk a one side and shooting folk at the other side and they were trying to turn then against each other. we need to stick together don't give those b***ards anything to use against us. no field sports no countryside.

 

 

 

anno mate i didnt know how bad it was until i registered on here, people saying shooting foxes isnt humane the fox hasnt got a chance etc lol, Control is control

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[Guest Eamon.Mc]

I understand what your'e saying Grant, I too get callouts and it has to be done, I found 2 shot cubs on permission that I have they were only a few weeks old, thing was no-one has permission to shoot this ground, it's these guys with rifles that I can't support. Most guys have a bit o common sense but there is some ar5eholes out there with guns. I'm not against anyone shooting vermin as part of pest control whether it's cubs or not, it's the wannabe cowboys I disaggree with.

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[Dabhand 887]

if people enjoy shootin with rifles do it but dont go on overkill like most around here up on the hills naerly every night in the winter whats the point :wankerzo4: :wankerzo4: :wankerzo4: just put a target up

[shinyspade 2]

nothing worse than some jumped up numpty shooting everything that moves driving around thinking there the bee's knees. there are far to many macho shooters. however lets remember every pastime has there numpties. its up to each sport to try to educate there numpties . shooting a vixen with cubs to ground discusts me. if there are foxes on your shoot deal with them before they cub or get a sensable terrierman to despach them its all about timeing and respect i know a few sporting shooters and the majority of them are genuine countrymen that dislike poor sportmanship in there chosen sport. education is the key in all fieldsports

[Guest ragumup]

I think grant speaks a lot of sense . Iv said it before the fox is a survivor and just because you shoot a vixen thats has cubs don't think the cubs will stave the dog fox will still feed them and the vixens last years cub if there is one will too ,

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[old dog 210]

I think grant speaks a lot of sense . Ie said it before the fox is a survivor and just because you shoot a vixen thats has cubs don't think the cubs will stave the dog fox will still feed them and the vixens last years cub if there is one will too ,

 

The only problem with that is the rifles have already shot dad, uncle and aunties, they don't stop at one they eliminate every fox they see. I have hunted over 30 years and in the last 6 years the rifles have wiped the places out. Driving around shooting off the back of pickups, off the roads they shot 26 foxes in one nights outing, that's not control, that's the numbers game. "Trigger happy look what I shot".

[tigerdog2 8]

I think grant speaks a lot of sense . Ie said it before the fox is a survivor and just because you shoot a vixen thats has cubs don't think the cubs will stave the dog fox will still feed them and the vixens last years cub if there is one will too ,

 

The only problem with that is the rifles have already shot dad, uncle and aunties, they don't stop at one they eliminate every fox they see. I have hunted over 30 years and in the last 6 years the rifles have wiped the places out. Driving around shooting off the back of pickups, off the roads they shot 26 foxes in one nights outing, that's not control, that's the numbers game. "Trigger happy look what I shot".

i had already started a post about this on another site ,bullitt lamp men at night destroying the fox digging job ,thats whats hapning around me,am like old nog worked these parts for 30 years and last 5 or 6 years as just been terrible,any way each to there own a dont like the buliitt lamp job at all !!

[tigerdog2 8]

I think grant speaks a lot of sense . Ie said it before the fox is a survivor and just because you shoot a vixen thats has cubs don't think the cubs will stave the dog fox will still feed them and the vixens last years cub if there is one will too ,

 

The only problem with that is the rifles have already shot dad, uncle and aunties, they don't stop at one they eliminate every fox they see. I have hunted over 30 years and in the last 6 years the rifles have wiped the places out. Driving around shooting off the back of pickups, off the roads they shot 26 foxes in one nights outing, that's not control, that's the numbers game. "Trigger happy look what I shot".

i had already started a post about this on another site ,bullitt lamp men at night destroying the fox digging job ,thats whats hapning around me,am like old nog worked these parts for 30 years and last 5 or 6 years as just been terrible,any way each to there own a dont like the buliitt lamp job at all !!

[Guest Eamon.Mc]

I think we all have valid points, and as mentioned it's up each of us to try and educate the asholes in our chosen sports, I'd be the first to condemn shoddy terrier work. It's not the first earth I've come accross that's been left in a mess but I've done the best I can to repair the damage. If we were all of the same mindset on the asholes no matter what our chosen field is, we would'nt be having debates like these. It's always the few that spoil a good thing for us all. Like olddog says with some it's a numbers game, I spoke to a guy that shoots with a rifle all year round, driving round in his jeep, silenced rifle boasting of nearly 400 in 1 year, he then went on to say I was'nt wise out digging when I could just shoot them from the comfort of a jeep!!! Its these numpties that need educating, but where do you start? I think since the FAC laws have been slackened here in the north of Ireland after the troubles, the amount of men with rifles has risen dramatically and the number of foxes has dropped dramatically also. I can recall 10 years ago being able to kill 5-6 foxes a night with lurchers, now sometimes we are lucky to see 5-6 foxes in total. I'm a firm believer that we also have to preserve our sport which to me means having a close season. We do it in fishing hunting should be the same, unless it is genuine pest control. JMHO.