muppets

[wildfowler-2007 0]

running hares at this time of the year is shocking practise

 

i also have to say old charlie boy is a pest and need's to go at any time of the year

 

regards

[Guest smashygadge]

farmers class the hare as pest due to crop damage

a shoot nr lockington east yorks shot over 500 hare in two days

only weeks ago

so neither the shooting man as respect for the hare just slaughter in my book

and as for leverets they have been about since christmas

its not just this time when there about its all year

but as i and alot of others say this isnt the time now

BUT YOU WILL NEVER STOP THEM BEING RUN EACH TO THERE OWN

 

i agree with what you say as i controll land and see problems caused.and right what you are saying about breeding all year round as do rabbits their must be 4 generations in a set now its none stop

[inan 841]

because a fox is a pest and a hare is sport plus leverets are about and if you kill a doe your killing a few leverets too

 

By killing vixens you are killing cubs its just the same. I dislike killing any animal with young inside or what is feeding young. The mild weather of the summer does tempt some people out of there armchairs to hunt but these people are not proper dogmen!

Well there's a first we agree on something!

[inan 841]

Well if you want to hunt hares ferretman fill your boots mate.Whats good for one isn't good for another.Im sure all the people telling you its wrong have done same or similar in their younger days.

DO YOU MEAN LIKE , WHEN THEY DIDNT KNOW ANY BETTER? WHILE YOUR'E AT IT WHY DONT YOU SHOOT A FEW NESTING HEN PHEASANTS? I MEAN WHY HAVE A CLOSE SEASON IT ONLY GETS IN THE WAY OF YOUR "SPORT "DOESN'T IT? GET OUT ON A FEW OF THOSE LEVERETS ,THEN COME BACK ON HERE AND TELL US ALL ABOUT IT. WHERE'S THE BUCKET ?

[Guest dotty]

if you don't have many hares in an area and you like them as a sport then obvisiously you wouldn't kill any in the spring and summer because you want more sport.

however, if you have lots then they are a pest. so to kill them in the summer in no different to the winter the result is the same. a dead hare.

Edited April 19, 2008 by dotty

[inan 841]

if you don't have many hares in an area and you like them as a sport then obvisiously you wouldn't kill any in the spring and summer because you want more sport.

however, if you have lots then they are a pest. so to kill them in the summer in no different to the winter the result is the same. a dead hare.

The chances are the ones the dogs will catch will be the nursing or pregnant does,so not the same result really as one dead hare plus babies inside her or leverets on the field left to starve ,real sport eh!

[chartpolski 28,355]

Now I know this will invite the wrath of the purists, and the computer hunters will jump in; but does ANYONE use a lurcher for it's origional purpose, ie, putting food on the table ? Is a lurcher only for sport, and if the quarry gets away; well done, it lived for another day ?? Did our forefathers stop hunting because it wasn't "the season"? Now before you attack me, it is a hypothetical question !!

Cheers.

[Guest WILF]

I think you may have come across a valid point there Chartpolski...........is the fella lamping the hares for pest control, because he has been asked to by his permission owner.

 

If he is, then I cant see a problem...........folk are talking in terms of sport

 

Also another hypothetical question, I wonder how many of the "sportsmen" use what they kill?

[inan 841]

Now I know this will invite the wrath of the purists, and the computer hunters will jump in; but does ANYONE use a lurcher for it's origional purpose, ie, putting food on the table ? Is a lurcher only for sport, and if the quarry gets away; well done, it lived for another day ?? Did our forefathers stop hunting because it wasn't "the season"? Now before you attack me, it is a hypothetical question !!

Cheers.

I have 3 freezers full up with game ,but I dont lamp hares anytime of year ,and I dont run pregnant ones . Our forefathers used to drive a herd of animals over a cliif to get a dinner ,should we do the same.I don't buy meat ,I don't have to but,no one has to rely on their dog to put food on the table today.My family have kept lurchers since before WW2,when a bunny was a welcome addition to the larder,times have changed I don't think you can use that as a valid excuse for running milky ,or nursing does.

[Guest WILF]

Would you kill if your permission/land owner asked you to................?

[inan 841]

I think you may have come across a valid point there Chartpolski...........is the fella lamping the hares for pest control, because he has been asked to by his permission owner.

 

If he is, then I cant see a problem...........folk are talking in terms of sport

 

Also another hypothetical question, I wonder how many of the "sportsmen" use what they kill?

I or my dogs eat all we take ,unless its a fox rat etc,the heads go to the ferrets,,nothing is wasted.Sunday lunch is either pheasant,partridge,duck,rabbit,or hare,or if Ive been out on my mates permission ,maybe a haunch of venison,I should have a sticker saying "Ive allways been green".

[Guest joe ox]

I lamp hares :11: There are circumstances when things have to be killed or controlled all year round. Hares, foxs and rabbits have no season but it gives me no pleasure to kill them when they have young or are feeding young. I dont have any problems killing those young as soon as there able to give the dog a decent run though.

[Guest timeout]

It does not suprise me the amount the amount iof negative comments.You see i always found land owners and gamekeepers to despise lurchers and held the owners of such dogs with even more disregard.Your comments of nesting pheasants kinda makes me think your one of the latter.Now when your finished with that bucket pass it to me please

[chartpolski 28,355]

Now I know this will invite the wrath of the purists, and the computer hunters will jump in; but does ANYONE use a lurcher for it's origional purpose, ie, putting food on the table ? Is a lurcher only for sport, and if the quarry gets away; well done, it lived for another day ?? Did our forefathers stop hunting because it wasn't "the season"? Now before you attack me, it is a hypothetical question !!

Cheers.

I have 3 freezers full up with game ,but I dont lamp hares anytime of year ,and I dont run pregnant ones . Our forefathers used to drive a herd of animals over a cliif to get a dinner ,should we do the same.I don't buy meat ,I don't have to but,no one has to rely on their dog to put food on the table today.My family have kept lurchers since before WW2,when a bunny was a welcome addition to the larder,times have changed I don't think you can use that as a valid excuse for running milky ,or nursing does.

 

I didn't say it was an excuse for anything !! I said it was a hypothetical question !! But, of course , I knew you would be one of the first to jump in, with a "holier than thou" reply !! I DON'T run leverets or milky doe's; but is it so wrong to take something "out of season", (bearing in mind; there is NO season now for hunting with dogs), for the pot ?? Once again, I'm being the Devils Advocate on this, and by the way, where did I mention LAMPING anything ???

Cheers.

[Guest WILF]

I would still be interested to know if the guys who wont hunt Hare in the spring/summer would do so if asked by the permission owner...........especially if the choice was do it or someone else will?