RIOHH 30 Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 I went to the knebworth game fair today and showed my terriers. They won a few rossetts but the main thig that bothered me was the following conversation i heard. Judge 1: so [bANNED TEXT] do you think Judge 2: that one but its got no balls so i cant This is appaling just because my dog has no balls he could give it the prize. What is all this about. I know some people say you cant work a dog if its been done but both of my dogs work and theyve both been done and my little bitch is showing great potential and shes been done. Can anyone answer this for me. Whats difference does it make if its got it or not? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Timid Toad 18 Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 They are going on the same rulling that they use in pedigree shows where the dog picked should be the best of its breed and able to produce others in the same line of its breed . not having any doesnt mean it cant work though lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dawn B 212 Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 They are going on the same rulling that they use in pedigree shows where the dog picked should be the best of its breed and able to produce others in the same line of its breed . not having any doesnt mean it cant work though lol That is incorrect. You CAN show a spayed or castrated dog without special permission at ANY KC show. Dog showing regardless of whether its a Terrier show or a KC champ show, is a beauty contest, nothing else at all, and as beauty is in the eye of the beholder, in this case the judge, what pleases his eye will win. Dawn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 They are going on the same rulling that they use in pedigree shows where the dog picked should be the best of its breed and able to produce others in the same line of its breed . not having any doesnt mean it cant work though lol That is incorrect. You CAN show a spayed or castrated dog without special permission at ANY KC show. Dog showing regardless of whether its a Terrier show or a KC champ show, is a beauty contest, nothing else at all, and as beauty is in the eye of the beholder, in this case the judge, what pleases his eye will win. Dawn. Maybe the judge likes the look of a dog's bollocks! Bloody pervert! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slip 1 Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 They are going on the same rulling that they use in pedigree shows where the dog picked should be the best of its breed and able to produce others in the same line of its breed . not having any doesnt mean it cant work though lol That is incorrect. You CAN show a spayed or castrated dog without special permission at ANY KC show. Dog showing regardless of whether its a Terrier show or a KC champ show, is a beauty contest, nothing else at all, and as beauty is in the eye of the beholder, in this case the judge, what pleases his eye will win. Dawn. Maybe the judge likes the look of a dog's bollocks! Bloody pervert! dog haveing no balls at a show means f**k all to me think what he was getting at its missing part of its anatemy like missing a leg or something f*****g gob shite as long as he has alls under the sod you gives afuck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Border Terrier 0 Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 the show world is full of superficial people judging dogs on superficial standards which have very little to do with work Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dawn B 212 Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 I absolutely agree with you, but like I say a dog show is a beauty contest. I think that castration and spaying is acceptable now is because some people had bitches spayed and didnt get permission to show them (how it used to be, or the dog needed to have had registered progeny) in some breeds, like Shelties, Collies, people were known to have had bitches spayed as it improved their coats, making them thicker and more desirable etc.. Some breeds however, spaying and castration can ruin a coat, like a Spaniel for example. With not being able to tell if a bitch was spayed it was decided that a male or female neutered dog could be showed without special permission, with regards to the males, the breed standard still states in each and every one, that the dog should have 2 testicles descended into the scrotum, so judges really shouldnt place a castrated male if going on that alone. make you own minds up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RIOHH 30 Posted March 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 The dog in question is the brown one in the pic. It wasnt just me who didnt agree with the judge 75% of the spectators and most of the entrants didnt agree either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dawn B 212 Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 Regardless of what any judge thinks Scent, you always take the best dog home. Dawn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RIOHH 30 Posted March 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 Cheers scent. i know what you mean. in some of the classes there were some much better looking dogs but in the russel classes, even the winner of best rough dog said i should of won. it goes to show that some people will never change their veiws on castration Quote Link to post Share on other sites
murf 0 Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 does your dog work better castrated or not that is the question in my eyes its a load of b...s or pardon the lack of them seen some fantastic workers without em but got a lot more b...s and guts than dogs with em so whats your view think in my view its all false lol.. but wil leave the real lads to decide that... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RIOHH 30 Posted March 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 (edited) Cheers scent. i know what you mean. in some of the classes there were some much better looking dogs but in the russel classes, even the winner of best rough dog said i should of won. it goes to show that some people will never change their veiws on castration do you work your dogs or just show em just wondering cause i do both ,somethin to do durin the summer Yes i work all three of my dogs. as you said showing is somthing to do through summer. Edited March 10, 2008 by RIOHH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RIOHH 30 Posted March 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 Why are some so adament that he wont work aswell without his balls. A friend of mine was actually told to get rid of one of his dogsd and get on ethat would work even though the person that said it had never met the dog, never mind seen it work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the_stig 6,614 Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 jack russell terrier club gb breed standard says that a dog must be entire .one of my dogs has only got one dont stop him winning or working a lot of judges dont even feel these days . a judge once told me he should be put down coz of it when the same dog beat him a couple of shows later he made sure every fecker knew he`d been beat by a one bollock dog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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