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14 hours ago, mackem said:

Saw a couple of well trained ones recently,both handled by ex military,very steady.

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That's a credited to them. I think Malis, APBT's and Patterdales are the three breeds that are on the elite canine level and are incredible animals when in the right hands.

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5 hours ago, Aussie Whip said:

That's a credited to them. I think Malis, APBT's and Patterdales are the three breeds that are on the elite canine level and are incredible animals when in the right hands.

You forgot saluki in that list ffs ….. 

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6 hours ago, Aussie Whip said:

That's a credited to them. I think Malis, APBT's and Patterdales are the three breeds that are on the elite canine level and are incredible animals when in the right hands.

most breeds in the right hands can become incredibly clever ,the lurcher is famed for being clever ? lads today think clever is jumping long nets ,holding a rabbit ,or bringing back to hand ,or catching 3 out of 3 FFS all them things any lurcher should do and they nothing clever about it ,

When I was a kid my family would travel from the Lincolnshire fens to Hereford for the apple,hop ,pear harvest and they would be more travelling people in Herefordshire than I've ever seen in my life ,most had lurchers ,terriers and some of these families had curs like you read about in the old poaching books , my dad's family "smiths"and the coopers had one or two of these lurchers ,my mother is in her late 80s now and she tells me story's about the life they lived and dogs they kept and brookie will also agree as he lived with my dad's family for many years and he's seen some of these dogs in action.

Brian vesey Fitzgerald witnessed these two families dogs working and wrote about them in the book "it's my delight" 

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