Farage and Boris responsible for small boats.

[mushroom 14,021]

1 minute ago, Halfhound said:

Yeah but most would of had a return flight booked is what I meant bud

So did I lol just ended up liking the place mate

 

[Seagull 309]

31 minutes ago, Halfhound said:

Seagull do you believe that foreigners have a right to arrive to the UK and be allowed to just set up home then? Leave the legal migration and all that shite out of it. Do you believe you’ve a right to up sticks and go wherever you please in the world?

Do I believe people should have the right to seek asylum, yes, why not? So you are saying that the Brits who lived and fought  abroad during WW2 shouldn't have been allowed to seek refuge in safer countries?

[mushroom 14,021]

Just now, Seagull said:

Do I believe people should have the right to seek asylum, yes, why not? So you are saying that the Brits who lived and fought  abroad during WW2 shouldn't have been allowed to seek refuge in safer countries?

Aye but most of the Poles, French etc went back home afterwards and those that could formed regiments and left their women and children safe in Blighty to go and fight fascism! 

Asylum is a farce being used inappropriately by shitcunts!

[Seagull 309]

Just now, mushroom said:

Aye but most of the Poles, French etc went back home afterwards and those that could formed regiments and left their women and children safe in Blighty to go and fight fascism! 

Asylum is a farce being used inappropriately by shitcunts!

And many didn't, but that's not the point, don't confuse the right to seek asylum with our poor immigration system.

[WILF 49,684]

Why are people talking about European's moving to, well, anywhere and the 3rd world moving to Europe like it’s all exactly the same thing ? lol ……..f***ing hell, don’t be simple lads, we all know it’s not the same thing and we all know why !

[Seagull 309]

9 minutes ago, WILF said:

Why are people talking about European's moving to, well, anywhere and the 3rd world moving to Europe like it’s all exactly the same thing ? lol ……..f***ing hell, don’t be simple lads, we all know it’s not the same thing and we all know why !

What's the difference? We can't have it both ways, we either believe people should have the right to seek asylum or we don't? And if you don't agree then you don't agree with EU nationals, including Brits doing so during WW2?

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[mushroom 14,021]

4 minutes ago, Seagull said:

What's the difference? We can't have it both ways, we either believe people should have the right to seek asylum or we don't? And if you don't agree then you don't agree with EU nationals, including Brits doing so during WW2?

There you are "the right to seek" not the right to have and like I said they should be doing it from their home country. Not rocking up in a rubber boat from a safe country (France) or turning up at border control in Leeds-Bradford! 

Anyone of the scenarios I've listed above should all be denied and shipped off!

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26 minutes ago, Seagull said:

Do I believe people should have the right to seek asylum, yes, why not? So you are saying that the Brits who lived and fought  abroad during WW2 shouldn't have been allowed to seek refuge in safer countries?

How is anything that happened in WW2 relevant ffs jesus your a tough one to figure out

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7 minutes ago, mushroom said:

There you are "the right to seek" not the right to have and like I said they should be doing it from their home country. Not rocking up in a rubber boat from a safe country (France) or turning up at border control in Leeds-Bradford! 

Anyone of the scenarios I've listed above should all be denied and shipped off!

Let's make it clear, many are abusing the system, but the one's genuinely fleeing persecution, do you really think that things will be so simple? And no matter how much it pisses people off, the Refuge Convention does not state that asylum seekers must seek refuge in the first  safe country they enter.

But, all these barriers could be mitigated if the UK really has the stomach to play hardball which I don't  believe it does, that's a UK run by  Labour, Conservative or Reform.

Edited 19 hours ago by Seagull

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Just now, Halfhound said:

How is anything that happened in WW2 relevant ffs jesus your a tough one to figure out

You are a little simple so I'll explain, seeking refuge is seeking refuge.

[Seagull 309]

It doesn't matter what people's opinions are, what matters is the reality of the situation. Unless the UK wants to tear up treaties that we helped create and risk sanctions, credibility, diplomatic relations, etc, then things won't change IMO.

[Halfhound 27]

3 minutes ago, Seagull said:

You are a little simple so I'll explain, seeking refuge is seeking refuge.

I think you reckon everyone is a little simple ha ha your trying to justify the unjustifiable and you come out with whatever wallop comes into your head to try and make a case for yourself. Jesus you make yourself out to be some clown I’m starting to think you can’t be serious 

[mushroom 14,021]

10 minutes ago, Seagull said:

Let's make it clear, many are abusing the system, but the one's genuinely fleeing persecution, do you really think that things will be so simple? And no matter how much it pisses people off, the Refuge Convention does not state that asylum seekers must seek refuge in the first  safe country they enter.

But, all these barriers could be mitigated if the UK really has the stomach to play hardball which I don't they do, that's Labour, Conservative or Reform.

So we pull out of the 1951 convention and create our own asylum rules like other countries have!

If you don't do it legally and correctly, fuuck off. Not our problem. Group up and fix your own fuucking countries and stop lying to attain it when in fact you're just a shit c**t economic migrant with the culture of a goat shagging toe rag.

Plus what do you think the UN was set up for? To provide safe areas in countries with conflict (another toothless bullshit entity)

Edited 19 hours ago by mushroom

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1 minute ago, Halfhound said:

I think you reckon everyone is a little simple ha ha your trying to justify the unjustifiable and you come out with whatever wallop comes into your head to try and make a case for yourself. Jesus you make yourself out to be some clown I’m starting to think you can’t be serious 

I don't reckon, i know. You can't have it both ways, you either believe that people should have the right to seek refuge or they don't?

And who the feck are you anyway? You have clearly been on here before so would like to know which simpleton I'm talking to? 

[Seagull 309]

2 minutes ago, mushroom said:

So we pull out of the 1951 convention and create our own asylum rules like other countries!

If you don't do it legally and correctly, fuuck off. Not our problem. Group up and fix your own fuucking countries and stop lying to attain it when in fact you're just a shit c**t economic migrants with the culture of a goat shagging toe rag.

Plus what do you think the UN was set up for? To provide safe areas in countries with conflict (another toothless bullshit entity)

See above.