Farage and Boris responsible for small boats.

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26 minutes ago, mushroom said:

Same for my mrs, she's from Honduras and lives in Spain with full residency, just not a Spanish passport (yet).

My wife’s cousin is married to a Vietnamese woman . They’ve been married many years and lived in Saudi and then to Cyprus where they both got EU citizenship, whatever that is.

They decided to retire and come back to live, in his case, in the UK.

They were made to jump through so many hoops to get her right to remain, English language test, citizenship test, biometric eye test, etc. At a huge financial cost.

She finally got it , then see’s so many of her country men turning up illegally on boats from France and having everything done for them.

Its not just us who are angry about this; people who did the right thing are also very angry.

Cheers.

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43 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

My wife’s cousin is married to a Vietnamese woman . They’ve been married many years and lived in Saudi and then to Cyprus where they both got EU citizenship, whatever that is.

They decided to retire and come back to live, in his case, in the UK.

They were made to jump through so many hoops to get her right to remain, English language test, citizenship test, biometric eye test, etc. At a huge financial cost.

She finally got it , then see’s so many of her country men turning up illegally on boats from France and having everything done for them.

Its not just us who are angry about this; people who did the right thing are also very angry.

Cheers.

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The question that needs asking is, if all these asylum applications are bogus then how are they convincing the authorities that they are genuine?

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50 minutes ago, Seagull said:

The question that needs asking is, if all these asylum applications are bogus then how are they convincing the authorities that they are genuine?

They don’t have to convince anyone.

They just have to say they are from certain countries where they are being persecuted.

Even if their claim is refused they can’t be sent back to certain countries such as Afghanistan for fear persecution.

Its a catch 22, they fail the asylum claim but we can’t return them.

ECHR laws over rule ours .

Cheers.

[Seagull 308]

4 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

They don’t have to convince anyone.

They just have to say they are from certain countries where they are being persecuted.

Even if their claim is refused they can’t be sent back to certain countries such as Afghanistan for fear persecution.

Its a catch 22, they fail the asylum claim but we can’t return them.

ECHR laws over rule ours .

Cheers.

I'm sure it's not quite that simple, I mean why do some get rejected? 

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4 minutes ago, Seagull said:

I'm sure it's not quite that simple, I mean why do some get rejected? 

Probably because their stories are obviously lies and they get caught out.

If they say they are from Afghanistan and can’t speak any of the languages or can’t name the town or village they are from then they will be bogus and their claim rejected.

If they say they are from Iraq but can only speak Albanian i’ts a bit of a give away ! LOL !

it really is that simple.

Cheets.

 

[chartpolski 27,473]

When my son was an ECO he used to have us in stitches with the stories of bogus visa applications.

One was a Bangladeshi who claimed to be a “cabaret singer “ and had a job waiting for him but couldn’t name the employer or company.

My son asked him to sing Sinatras “My way”

but he said he had never heard of it, he was then asked to sing any of his repertoire but couldn’t.

He finally admitted he wanted to go to London and ask around the Indian restaurants for a waiters job.

His application was refused….  
Cheers.

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5 hours ago, scotty12 said:

How would you stop them coming across the Chanel mate ? 

You’d call it what it is, a danger to the state and use lethal force. 
 

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25 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

Probably because their stories are obviously lies and they get caught out.

If they say they are from Afghanistan and can’t speak any of the languages or can’t name the town or village they are from then they will be bogus and their claim rejected.

If they say they are from Iraq but can only speak Albanian i’ts a bit of a give away ! LOL !

it really is that simple.

Cheets.

 

Clearly, so, if they speak that language then chances are they are more than likely from the region they claim they are, and if they convince the authorities they are suffering from persecution then there's a good chance their application will accepted, no?

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35 minutes ago, Seagull said:

I'm sure it's not quite that simple, I mean why do some get rejected? 

For a man who questions and pecks at every response everyone makes on this topic your own solution was very vague 

[Seagull 308]

Just now, Halfhound said:

For a man who questions and pecks at every response everyone makes on this topic your own solution was very vague 

Why was it vague, if you struggle to understand what I said then ask more.

[Seagull 308]

So, if we feel we should accept no asylum seekers, no matter their plight, then we either play hardball or we can go down the compassionate route with all the EU countries affected by it, it's really that simple isn't it?

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5 hours ago, Seagull said:

Stop them fleeing to the EU in the first place, put more pressure on other nations outside the EU, etc.

How do you even go about this? And how would you put pressure on other countries? From my experience nobody gives a f**k about my house and family except me and nobody will ever have the best interests of it at heart other than me. I think relying on anyone else to even half help sort the mess is a pipe dream 

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Just now, Halfhound said:

How do you even go about this? And how would you put pressure on other countries? From my experience nobody gives a f**k about my house and family except me and nobody will ever have the best interests of it at heart other than me. I think relying on anyone else to even half help sort the mess is a pipe dream 

Incentives, and if that doesn't work and they won't fully cooperate, then sanctions.

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6 minutes ago, Seagull said:

Clearly, so, if they speak that language then chances are they are more than likely from the region they claim they are, and if they convince the authorities they are suffering from persecution then there's a good chance their application will accepted, no?

Of course. If they can convince the panel that they are in danger of persecution if they are returned, they will likely get asylum.

If they can’t convince the panel that they will be subjected to persecution , their application will be refused.

Thats when the lefty lawyers move in and start quoting ECHR laws and rules and the interminable appeals start.

Cheers.