Farage and Boris responsible for small boats.

[jukel123 9,270]

Before 2018 there was not a single small boat crossing the channel with asylum seekers. The reason was that there was a legal agreement that asylum seekers  could  be legally returned to the first European country  they had entered. So no asylum seekers bothered to cross knowing that if they did  they would be immediately returned. This was known as the Dublin 111 agreement.

But this agreement abruptly ended after brexit.

Farage and Johnstone did not tell us this before they asked us to vote for brexit. 

 They also told direct lies to the British people before the brexit vote.

Immigration remains at exceptionally high levels.

How come Farage and Johnstone get a free pass on this issue?

 

[WILF 49,623]

26 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Before 2018 there was not a single small boat crossing the channel with asylum seekers. The reason was that there was a legal agreement that asylum seekers  could  be legally returned to the first European country  they had entered. So no asylum seekers bothered to cross knowing that if they did  they would be immediately returned. This was known as the Dublin 111 agreement.

But this agreement abruptly ended after brexit.

Farage and Johnstone did not tell us this before they asked us to vote for brexit. 

 They also told direct lies to the British people before the brexit vote.

Immigration remains at exceptionally high levels.

How come Farage and Johnstone get a free pass on this issue?

 

In fairness to Farage, he said all along we should leave the ECHR as soon as we left the EU.

I’ll also add that it implies we don’t have the means to control our own borders….we do, we just choose not to.

But let’s face it, this isn’t a new thing, it’s a culmination of years…..started with Windrush, policy written by Nandy, utter betrayal by Blair…..none of this has happened in isolation, they have all been at it for eighty years. 

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[greg64 3,027]

we never used to hardly send anyone back before brexit if you look at the figures and why can't the EU get rid of them if it was that easy 

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[jukel123 9,270]

22 minutes ago, WILF said:

In fairness to Farage, he said all along we should leave the ECHR as soon as we left the EU.

I’ll also add that it implies we don’t have the means to control our own borders….we do, we just choose not to.

But let’s face it, this isn’t a new thing, it’s a culmination of years…..started with Windrush, policy written by Nandy, utter betrayal by Blair…..none of this has happened in isolation, they have all been at it for eighty years. 

Before ECHR is abolished let's get  new human rights legislation published and voted on before we throw the baby out with the bathwater. I have zero trust in politicians. I fear they would use getting rid of ECHR as a back door to further erode our human rights.

[greg64 3,027]

In September 2024, with some 242,000 migrants obligated to leave the country, the German government announced the reintroduction of border controls to its European neighbours in an attempt to turn back new arrivals. Nathan Giwerzew described the Dublin III regulation in that context as "dysfunctional" - migrants who arrive in Europe are usually not registered by the country they first reach and are just waved through to Germany. And with no prior registration, they cannot be returned.^[41] Of the 128,000 migrants, caught by German police near the borders in 2023, only 7.9% had been registered before by another European country and the fingerprints of the rest could not be found in the Eurodac database.^[42] The attempt by the German government to return asylum seekers to the European neighbors, whos territory the migrants had crossed to enter Germany, was declared illegal by the Verwaltungsgericht Berlin on 2 June 2025. Three Somali migrants, who had been sent back to Poland after having crossed into Germany in Frankfurt (Oder) in May 2025, had filed an urgent appeal with the help of Pro Asyl activists.^[43][44]

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[Bendigo 735]

Ffs farage is responsible for mass immigration?

That's some fcked up left wing mind shit right there

 

[WILF 49,623]

1 hour ago, jukel123 said:

Before ECHR is abolished let's get  new human rights legislation published and voted on before we throw the baby out with the bathwater. I have zero trust in politicians. I fear they would use getting rid of ECHR as a back door to further erode our human rights.

British people have had rights since Magna Carta…..it was Blair sabotaged all that. 

[jukel123 9,270]

29 minutes ago, Bendigo said:

Ffs farage is responsible for mass immigration?

That's some fcked up left wing mind shit right there

 

Strange but true. Examine the facts, the stats. When we left the EU, the Dublin 111 agreement meant the small boat crossings began. Since brexit immigration has not gone down. Far from it. Nothing left or right about it mate. We were lied to. Farage and Johnstone probably didn't know of the Dublin 111 agreements. They were and are chancers.

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3 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Strange but true. Examine the facts, the stats. When we left the EU, the Dublin 111 agreement meant the small boat crossings began. Since brexit immigration has not gone down. Far from it. Nothing left or right about it mate. We were lied to. Farage and Johnstone probably didn't know of the Dublin 111 agreements. They were and are chancers.

Name a politician that isn’t a chancer !

Off the top of my head, without thinking too much about it I can only name two; Kate Hoey and Claire Fox.

Cheers.

[WILF 49,623]

3 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Strange but true. Examine the facts, the stats. When we left the EU, the Dublin 111 agreement meant the small boat crossings began. Since brexit immigration has not gone down. Far from it. Nothing left or right about it mate. We were lied to. Farage and Johnstone probably didn't know of the Dublin 111 agreements. They were and are chancers.

Yes, they are chancers !…..

But read that back to yourself……not once does it mention Britain, a sovereign people, deciding anything for theirselves.

Are we so hamstrung as a people that we have to rely on foreign people making laws in foreign places in order to know what to do ?……like, it’s mental !……the very crux of Brexit !

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7 minutes ago, WILF said:

Yes, they are chancers !…..

But read that back to yourself……not once does it mention Britain, a sovereign people, deciding anything for theirselves.

Are we so hamstrung as a people that we have to rely on foreign people making laws in foreign places in order to know what to do ?……like, it’s mental !……the very crux of Brexit !

The UK was a major part in the creation of the ECHR, the man labeled the greatest ever Britain was a supporter of it.

[jukel123 9,270]

4 minutes ago, Seagull said:

The UK was a major part in the creation of the ECHR, the man labeled the greatest ever Britain was a supporter of it.

As was Thatcher.

[WILF 49,623]

15 minutes ago, Seagull said:

The UK was a major part in the creation of the ECHR, the man labeled the greatest ever Britain was a supporter of it.

Yeah, and ?……what’s that got to do with anything ?

[jukel123 9,270]

I apologise if I'm f***ing with your mindset, and I'm not disputing what others have said in this thread. But what I have said is true. The small boat crossings only started after an ill thought out and amateurish brexit.

I voted for brexit on the basis that with less immigration wages would rise and that has happened.

But immigration has not gone down. And the people who have, by and large, replaced European immigration often do not share the same cultural beliefs as  Europeans.

Farage and Johnstone created the small boats crisis by not dealing with the Dublin 111 agreement. Even The biggest fans of Farage and Johnstone must concede that they are woeful when it comes to detail. But the press focuses on the migrants themselves and not the reason they are coming ,which is because there is nothing to stop them. The Dublin 111 agreement was not replaced with a similar agreement. For that we can only blame Farage and Johnstone.

Norway is not a member of the EU but has the Dublin 111 agreement with Europe. Perhaps Farage and Johnstone should have explored and adopted that agreement. That way the  crossings would never have happened.

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[WILF 49,623]

11 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

I apologise if I'm f***ing with your mindset, and I'm not disputing what others have said in this thread. But what I have said is true. The small boat crossings only started after an ill thought out and amateurish brexit.

I voted for brexit on the basis that wages would rise and that has happened.

But immigration has not gone down. And the people who have, by and large, replaced European immigration often do not share the same cultural beliefs as  Europeans.

Farage and Johnstone created the small boats crisis by not dealing with the Dublin 111 agreement. Even The biggest fans of Farage and Johnstone must concede that they are woeful when it comes to detail. But the press focuses on the migrants themselves and not the reason they are coming ,which is because there is nothing to stop them. For that we can only blame Farage and Johnstone.

 It isn’t messing with my mindset mate, I know they are all traitors lock, stock and barrel……

We created the “migrant crisis” because we refused to leave the ECHR and we don’t want to stop them…..it’s not more complicated than that. 
 

Yes the small boat part is post Brexit, but let’s face facts, we was awash with the f***ing 3rd world long before anyone had ever heard of Brexit…..this history don’t start 10 years ago, it starts eighty years ago. 

Edited 15 hours ago by WILF