Black neck 17,370 Posted Tuesday at 17:13 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 17:13 11 minutes ago, Moocher71 said: No I don't think you are ,but he didn't do so bad out of it did he ? He was the first 2 do it like that ,although I tek the piss I've got every book he wrote and could recite some word 4 word since when I was little, marketing genius 3 Quote Link to post
Seagull 794 Posted Tuesday at 17:32 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 17:32 18 minutes ago, Black neck said: He was the first 2 do it like that ,although I tek the piss I've got every book he wrote and could recite some word 4 word since when I was little, marketing genius For 5 pts, "I hate guns and anything to do with guns." Quote Link to post
Black neck 17,370 Posted Tuesday at 17:40 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 17:40 7 minutes ago, Seagull said: For 5 pts, "I hate guns and anything to do with guns." U swine billy Quote Link to post
THE STIFFMEISTER 17,138 Posted Tuesday at 18:25 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 18:25 2 hours ago, Franks dad said: Quote Link to post
THE STIFFMEISTER 17,138 Posted Tuesday at 18:26 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 18:26 53 minutes ago, Seagull said: For 5 pts, "I hate guns and anything to do with guns." Adventures of an artisan hunter Quote Link to post
Seagull 794 Posted Tuesday at 18:31 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 18:31 3 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: Adventures of an artisan hunter No, it was on one of his films, forget what's the name of it, where they dig a pig and do that rat hunt in the little shed. Quote Link to post
THE STIFFMEISTER 17,138 Posted Tuesday at 18:34 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 18:34 1 hour ago, Moocher71 said: No I don't think you are ,but he didn't do so bad out of it did he ? Plummer was a tramp a compulsive liar an egomaniac who offered to become chairman of the WTF and was politely told to f**k off Gave evidence against terrier men in court used his books and his inverted lurcher snobbery to pour scorn on owners of patterdales , bull crosses and Saluki types painting them as thugs and Dullards when he had a go at owning “his superlative “ coursing dog caanan , it jacked . And disappeared. His famous fox killing dog jacked on all other quarry and he bummed the dog up as a stud to anything to sell Hancock types his best terrier jacked in the ground and was reduced to being a rat killer against other divs In Chicken sheds but was somehow described as hard as nails. In fact chose one , san , vampire , omega , pagan , all mongrel russells who didn’t go to ground but form the cornerstone of the initial Plummer terrier line . plummer terriers lucas terriers plummer lurchers Hancock lurchers the man kept his dogs in utter filth as well and wrote books on husbandry and breeding. When using the nom de plume michael shaw, he used pictures of his own dogs and referred to himself as “noted longdog enthusiast David Brian Plummer” Man was a complete dingler But if that floats your boat pal , crack on . 1 Quote Link to post
Black neck 17,370 Posted Tuesday at 19:27 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 19:27 51 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: Plummer was a tramp a compulsive liar an egomaniac who offered to become chairman of the WTF and was politely told to f**k off Gave evidence against terrier men in court used his books and his inverted lurcher snobbery to pour scorn on owners of patterdales , bull crosses and Saluki types painting them as thugs and Dullards when he had a go at owning “his superlative “ coursing dog caanan , it jacked . And disappeared. His famous fox killing dog jacked on all other quarry and he bummed the dog up as a stud to anything to sell Hancock types his best terrier jacked in the ground and was reduced to being a rat killer against other divs In Chicken sheds but was somehow described as hard as nails. In fact chose one , san , vampire , omega , pagan , all mongrel russells who didn’t go to ground but form the cornerstone of the initial Plummer terrier line . plummer terriers lucas terriers plummer lurchers Hancock lurchers the man kept his dogs in utter filth as well and wrote books on husbandry and breeding. When using the nom de plume michael shaw, he used pictures of his own dogs and referred to himself as “noted longdog enthusiast David Brian Plummer” Man was a complete dingler But if that floats your boat pal , crack on . I feel you may not be as bigger fan as u mek out Quote Link to post
Moocher71 4,133 Posted Tuesday at 20:52 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 20:52 1 hour ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: Plummer was a tramp a compulsive liar an egomaniac who offered to become chairman of the WTF and was politely told to f**k off Gave evidence against terrier men in court used his books and his inverted lurcher snobbery to pour scorn on owners of patterdales , bull crosses and Saluki types painting them as thugs and Dullards when he had a go at owning “his superlative “ coursing dog caanan , it jacked . And disappeared. His famous fox killing dog jacked on all other quarry and he bummed the dog up as a stud to anything to sell Hancock types his best terrier jacked in the ground and was reduced to being a rat killer against other divs In Chicken sheds but was somehow described as hard as nails. In fact chose one , san , vampire , omega , pagan , all mongrel russells who didn’t go to ground but form the cornerstone of the initial Plummer terrier line . plummer terriers lucas terriers plummer lurchers Hancock lurchers the man kept his dogs in utter filth as well and wrote books on husbandry and breeding. When using the nom de plume michael shaw, he used pictures of his own dogs and referred to himself as “noted longdog enthusiast David Brian Plummer” Man was a complete dingler But if that floats your boat pal , crack on . I say it how I see it , they is probably some lads that come on this forum that genuinely had a reason to dislike and distrust Plummer ,but what I was saying is a lot of folk jump on the bandwagon and they didn't even know him . To me he was a good book writer,and by writing them books he got a lot of folk into lurchers ,terriers etc and he obviously did well out of it , Did he use other lads stories, from what I'm told he did ,was he a good field man from what I'm told he wasn't . I didn't no the man personally ,Can I slag him ,call him a grass ? No i can not . I've read his books ,and read what he thought of bull x owners etc and I couldn't care less , I've herd some say his kennels was disgusting and ferrets kept in really bad conditions, As for him being a grass,that's a strong thing to say about someone ,did he grass you ? or was you told that by someone else? now I didn't know him,I see him at couple of shows and for someone who wasn't ilked he had lads round him like flies to crap . As for the type of dogs he bred Plummer ,Lucas do they really have to go to ground to be called workers ? Is a ratting terrier not a worker ? They a lot of lads ,lasses across UK ratting with terriers are they not working the dogs they keep or is it only fox dogs that are workers? Same with lurchers ,a lot of lads work lurchers but don't go coursing so are they not working lurchers ? Like I say I didn't know him and I'm not going to put a man down because others do especially others that didn't know him but can quote his books word for word . atb 1 Quote Link to post
THE STIFFMEISTER 17,138 Posted Tuesday at 20:59 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 20:59 6 minutes ago, Moocher71 said: I say it how I see it , they is probably some lads that come on this forum that genuinely had a reason to dislike and distrust Plummer ,but what I was saying is a lot of folk jump on the bandwagon and they didn't even know him . To me he was a good book writer,and by writing them books he got a lot of folk into lurchers ,terriers etc and he obviously did well out of it , Did he use other lads stories, from what I'm told he did ,was he a good field man from what I'm told he wasn't . I didn't no the man personally ,Can I slag him ,call him a grass ? No i can not . I've read his books ,and read what he thought of bull x owners etc and I couldn't care less , I've herd some say his kennels was disgusting and ferrets kept in really bad conditions, As for him being a grass,that's a strong thing to say about someone ,did he grass you ? or was you told that by someone else? now I didn't know him,I see him at couple of shows and for someone who wasn't ilked he had lads round him like flies to crap . As for the type of dogs he bred Plummer ,Lucas do they really have to go to ground to be called workers ? Is a ratting terrier not a worker ? They a lot of lads ,lasses across UK ratting with terriers are they not working the dogs they keep or is it only fox dogs that are workers? Same with lurchers ,a lot of lads work lurchers but don't go coursing so are they not working lurchers ? Like I say I didn't know him and I'm not going to put a man down because others do especially others that didn't know him but can quote his books word for word . atb He was an expert witness for the prosecution of terrier men . Let that sink in Quote Link to post
Moocher71 4,133 Posted Tuesday at 21:03 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 21:03 Just now, THE STIFFMEISTER said: He was an expert witness for the prosecution of terrier men . Let that sink in If the man was a grass he should have been thrown in a hole and backfilled . 1 Quote Link to post
Moocher71 4,133 Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 16 hours ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: He was an expert witness for the prosecution of terrier men . Let that sink in just out of interest why was he called as expert witness? When a court calls for such people it's for expert forensics scientists to give their opinion on the evidence found etc or something along them lines,so did the court call him as a expert in hunting ? If so that's not exactly him being a grass is it ? I'm not saying it's ok to go court and give evidence and it's something I'd be ever do but if he ain't gon to the police giving statements about someone but was called as a expert in that field it's totally different thing is it not ? Quote Link to post
THE STIFFMEISTER 17,138 Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago 50 minutes ago, Moocher71 said: just out of interest why was he called as expert witness? When a court calls for such people it's for expert forensics scientists to give their opinion on the evidence found etc or something along them lines,so did the court call him as a expert in hunting ? If so that's not exactly him being a grass is it ? I'm not saying it's ok to go court and give evidence and it's something I'd be ever do but if he ain't gon to the police giving statements about someone but was called as a expert in that field it's totally different thing is it not ? Crawl out of his arse mate I never said he was a grass , I said he was an expert witness against terriermen in prosecutions you said he was a grass he willingly gave evidence against terrier men , that’s scandalous imho it’s also well known that his famous vampire dog was kept in a packing crate in its own filth , with a mesh gauze panel over the top . man was a f***ing buffoon Quote Link to post
Moocher71 4,133 Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 27 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: Crawl out of his arse mate I never said he was a grass , I said he was an expert witness against terriermen in prosecutions you said he was a grass he willingly gave evidence against terrier men , that’s scandalous imho it’s also well known that his famous vampire dog was kept in a packing crate in its own filth , with a mesh gauze panel over the top . man was a f***ing buffoon I've asked you a simple question and you come back with crawl out his arse grass is some one who gives statements to the filth and then Stands in court, your first answer to me was he gave evidence against terrier men ,that automatically sounds like a grass does it not . i asked "did the court call him as a expert in his field ? That was all Id have thought they would have been better and more experienced men than him for a court to call on . At end of day I couldn't give two fcuks about it I was just asking a question. as for how he kept his dogs ,I'm not able to say because I didn't see for myself but I see Hancock's back in the day when I was just a teen and he should have been closed down but lads still got pups from him and sat chatting with him ,place was a turd hole, Quote Link to post
THE STIFFMEISTER 17,138 Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 38 minutes ago, Moocher71 said: I've asked you a simple question and you come back with crawl out his arse grass is some one who gives statements to the filth and then Stands in court, your first answer to me was he gave evidence against terrier men ,that automatically sounds like a grass does it not . i asked "did the court call him as a expert in his field ? That was all Id have thought they would have been better and more experienced men than him for a court to call on . At end of day I couldn't give two fcuks about it I was just asking a question. as for how he kept his dogs ,I'm not able to say because I didn't see for myself but I see Hancock's back in the day when I was just a teen and he should have been closed down but lads still got pups from him and sat chatting with him ,place was a turd hole, I’m not gonna argue with any of that 1 Quote Link to post
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