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On 30/06/2025 at 07:17, Bendigo said:

I'll start at the beginning and hopefully answer your questions as I see them.

Should we avoid talking about race? Well yes and no. I would undoubtedly agree with you almost 100%.... but unfortunately Britain doesn't want to talk about it after years of brainwashing and group think. I see changing things in Britain like turning an a large ocean liner, it takes 50 miles to make it do a 180, you can't just do a hand brake turn. Our village/small town isn't massively effected by immigration, but for me to knock on doors here and lead by talking about race is a total non starter, I can't do it! There are to many well respected none white people who everyone sees as 100% British. 

Labour have a councillor in Milton Keynes who served time for firebombing a butchers shop, was involved with the death of a child on a hunt protest and was once in a far right nazi group.....yet Godfrey bloom was destroyed because he said 'bongo bongo land'. This is the game we are up against. 

Should reform win power the economy would be crashed within months, not because reform are incompetent but because the establishment would crash it. We are a nation that now demands high standards, nice houses, nice cars, foreign holidays etc etc. and we finance it with debt. You will never get the nationalist government you want, we want, until the country hits rock bottom through war or economic collapse, so the steps that need to be taken can be. 

Just like most of today's racial nationalists came via the edl so across the country people are getting practice as councillors and MPs via reform. You can't just wave a magic wand and have your perfect men appear to campaign on things you agree with, the media and establishment will destroy them instantly, they need experience in what they are doing. Going on TV before an election and talking about race would see them finished before they start, they would never get to chat about subjects close to peoples hearts because they would be bogged down in 'whos really British '. 

I'll say it again, the left have united Islamists and gay rights. I've seen drag queens standing shoulder to shoulder with muslim youths holding an 'allah is the greatest' banner at an edl march! And our side will tear themselves to pieces over who's worse, Muslims or Jews, Ukraine or Russia, is farage a plant etc. 

I've walked down garden paths with leaflets for nationalist parties, I've unfolded banners saying 'save our white children' I've knocked on doors of families with half caste kids to talk about race and immigration. All useful things be they will never ever turn that ocean liner at this point.

Go meet your reform branches, local councillors and supporters and you will find people like us, who agree with us and see lots of things the same as us. We need to support the best option until something better comes along, we need a generation of people with the experience of campaigning and door knocking who are routed in local communities. The bnp, NF and Britain first days, while important and needed are a lost cause until society is really really broken through collapse or civil war. 

Nigel farage is prepared to be photographed at hunt meets before an election, he's creating a chance for a new generation of people to get experience in campaigning, if it wasn't for him nobody in British politics would even be talking about immigration and labour would have a free run. That, is turning the ocean liner, even if it's only a few degrees. 

Me and you probably both agree on race, yet I'd stand for reform if I didn't have such a 'compromised' past. Rupert lowe, while we may like and agree with him is not right to be in reform. He can't see an issue with declaring that he had his man servant shoot his dog in the head! FFS wake up, yes we know the truth and respect him but that isn't suitable when you are talking to the retarded British people via the main stream media!!!!

I was out fly fishing the other week with the man who is going to stand locally for reform in the GE. He's one of us 100%. Yet you would put him on the spot in the media asking him about race and who's really British? Rip him to pieces and destroy him in the media demanding he tells you if he supports Tommy Robinson or if he wants mass deportations? Wake up! We are nowhere near even needing that conversation. On every subject I can assure you he's one of us but it's like many on our side need to see him prove his racial qualifications and then push him out into the big wide world to be destroyed so they can say 'yep he's not really one of us'.

 

Do you remember back in the late 90's/early 00's when the BNP were actually looking like a force in certain parts of the country......when many of us actually thought it could be the start of something......i do......and i also remember hearing people say the same sort of stuff you are saying here......and what happened....it got ten times worse.

Reform/Farage are a wooden spoon put in place by the same people who gave you that " ten times worse ".....they are a consolation,a booby prize where you think your ocean liner is turning when in reality its stayed perfectly still while some clever c**t has given you something " new " to cling to having just written a new name down the side !

If you believe that a unified destruction of the British people ( which is what we are going through ) can be fought against by avoiding the actual fight then you're up against the old theory of expecting change from doing the same again.

The idea of Marxism is to de nationalise a country,strip away our identity so that you produce and consume while believing the state to be benevolent and on your side,non confrontational on the major and obvious issues of the time .....a backhander of anything meaningful or worthwhile coming in the material form,a reward almost .............but its coming at the cost of having to cover up rape gangs,machete attacks,Fgm and every other race related issue.

Ethnic Nationalists have a moral standard and one of those standards is that we put our native population first,no matter what....its a very strong stance granted but it is setting a standard just like other European nations are starting to do to protect their own people and children.....putting pressure on diversity driven politicians who are not acting on behalf of native Brits and who are infact at war with native Brits via the police,the media,unions etc with standards so concrete in their aims that they cannot be broken through with anything less than priority to our own.

These are the standards we need to set,we have to let go of this embarrassment and uncomfortable feeling regards racial difference,if you think dilly dallying around these problems and not being totally unabashed through the same old fears of name calling is going to further the cause and protect our own people then personally i dont know why you/we could possibly expect anything different to what we have now.

This whole fear of the word " race " is what has got us to a point we now may not be able to come back from......and you think avoiding it even longer is the answer,maybe its you that needs to wake up !....or do they just have you so mentally subjugated that you think old Elsie and her mates round the Post Office are fearful of labels to the point they are happy to take part in their own destruction ....how long do you think we have before we reach a point we cannot come back from.......a point that to survive as a nation we will be forced to address the problem via race and re migration ?

Why are we so scared of this evil word,infact how evil is the word anyway.....this word that has had tyrannical laws brought in to protect people from having their feelings hurt,so evil that it has literally brought down Western society and brought about rapid demographic change for our country and across Europe.....to me foreign invaders wielding power over my countries native people is a far higher level of evil than a person being called in insulting name.....which i know you will agree with,but until we stop running away from the problem and embrace it with sensible,honest if somewhat uncomfortable conversations then its only going to get worse.

Farage while being a brilliant politician,along with all the others of his ilk will run in whatever way the wind is blowing with whatever party name they believe will keep people away from addressing and confronting the real problems......to me getting behind and supporting a political party who hates me and who doesnt represent me i just see as pointless and counter productive but thats just how i see it.....all the best :thumbs:

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54 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

Do you remember back in the late 90's/early 00's when the BNP were actually looking like a force in certain parts of the country......when many of us actually thought it could be the start of something......i do......and i also remember hearing people say the same sort of stuff you are saying here......and what happened....it got ten times worse.

Reform/Farage are a wooden spoon put in place by the same people who gave you that " ten times worse ".....they are a consolation,a booby prize where you think your ocean liner is turning when in reality its stayed perfectly still while some clever c**t has given you something " new " to cling to having just written a new name down the side !

If you believe that a unified destruction of the British people ( which is what we are going through ) can be fought against by avoiding the actual fight then you're up against the old theory of expecting change from doing the same again.

The idea of Marxism is to de nationalise a country,strip away our identity so that you produce and consume while believing the state to be benevolent and on your side,non confrontational on the major and obvious issues of the time .....a backhander of anything meaningful or worthwhile coming in the material form,a reward almost .............but its coming at the cost of having to cover up rape gangs,machete attacks,Fgm and every other race related issue.

Ethnic Nationalists have a moral standard and one of those standards is that we put our native population first,no matter what....its a very strong stance granted but it is setting a standard just like other European nations are starting to do to protect their own people and children.....putting pressure on diversity driven politicians who are not acting on behalf of native Brits and who are infact at war with native Brits via the police,the media,unions etc with standards so concrete in their aims that they cannot be broken through with anything less than priority to our own.

These are the standards we need to set,we have to let go of this embarrassment and uncomfortable feeling regards racial difference,if you think dilly dallying around these problems and not being totally unabashed through the same old fears of name calling is going to further the cause and protect our own people then personally i dont know why you/we could possibly expect anything different to what we have now.

This whole fear of the word " race " is what has got us to a point we now may not be able to come back from......and you think avoiding it even longer is the answer,maybe its you that needs to wake up !....or do they just have you so mentally subjugated that you think old Elsie and her mates round the Post Office are fearful of labels to the point they are happy to take part in their own destruction ....how long do you think we have before we reach a point we cannot come back from.......a point that to survive as a nation we will be forced to address the problem via race and re migration ?

Why are we so scared of this evil word,infact how evil is the word anyway.....this word that has had tyrannical laws brought in to protect people from having their feelings hurt,so evil that it has literally brought down Western society and brought about rapid demographic change for our country and across Europe.....to me foreign invaders wielding power over my countries native people is a far higher level of evil than a person being called in insulting name.....which i know you will agree with,but until we stop running away from the problem and embrace it with sensible,honest if somewhat uncomfortable conversations then its only going to get worse.

Farage while being a brilliant politician,along with all the others of his ilk will run in whatever way the wind is blowing with whatever party name they believe will keep people away from addressing and confronting the real problems......to me getting behind and supporting a political party who hates me and who doesnt represent me i just see as pointless and counter productive but thats just how i see it.....all the best :thumbs:

Cracking post that mate, been a pleasure watching smart grown ups have a really interesting conversation. 

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On 30/06/2025 at 17:14, Bendigo said:

 As I said earlier we are a country with high living standards and it's all debt and illusion.  Listen to the headlines 'britains economy is looking positive because we grew by 0.2 percent rather than the 0.1 predicated'. 

If reform win I think the bank of England will send interest rates through the roof and then say 'look how they ruined the economy'.... and back we will go to years of lib/lab/con. 

I genuinely don't think we will get real change until we have a true collapse first. But that might come at any time. Could you imagine the chinks cutting the internet via sea cables or cyber war. Any sense of real panic and Britain would destroy itself in a month. Look at the panic when we ran out of bog roll. I remember during the scamdemic and they were reporting on empty shelves.....I walked past the reporters at the front, past the empty ready meal and pasta shelves and over to the butcher, fishmonger and veg and filled my trolley! 4 weeks without internet and Britain will be a smoking ruin, people bbqing each other.....then I'll crawl from the rubble in my Knight's outfit and take over !! 

 

Where d'you get the knight clobber? Asking for a friend.....

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25 minutes ago, Borr said:

Where d'you get the knight clobber? Asking for a friend.....

Masonic knights templar. If your ever in Lancashire let me know..... your more than welcome to come play in my tin foil fort and I'll even let you hold my sword 

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2 hours ago, gnasher16 said:

Do you remember back in the late 90's/early 00's when the BNP were actually looking like a force in certain parts of the country......when many of us actually thought it could be the start of something......i do......and i also remember hearing people say the same sort of stuff you are saying here......and what happened....it got ten times worse.

Reform/Farage are a wooden spoon put in place by the same people who gave you that " ten times worse ".....they are a consolation,a booby prize where you think your ocean liner is turning when in reality its stayed perfectly still while some clever c**t has given you something " new " to cling to having just written a new name down the side !

If you believe that a unified destruction of the British people ( which is what we are going through ) can be fought against by avoiding the actual fight then you're up against the old theory of expecting change from doing the same again.

The idea of Marxism is to de nationalise a country,strip away our identity so that you produce and consume while believing the state to be benevolent and on your side,non confrontational on the major and obvious issues of the time .....a backhander of anything meaningful or worthwhile coming in the material form,a reward almost .............but its coming at the cost of having to cover up rape gangs,machete attacks,Fgm and every other race related issue.

Ethnic Nationalists have a moral standard and one of those standards is that we put our native population first,no matter what....its a very strong stance granted but it is setting a standard just like other European nations are starting to do to protect their own people and children.....putting pressure on diversity driven politicians who are not acting on behalf of native Brits and who are infact at war with native Brits via the police,the media,unions etc with standards so concrete in their aims that they cannot be broken through with anything less than priority to our own.

These are the standards we need to set,we have to let go of this embarrassment and uncomfortable feeling regards racial difference,if you think dilly dallying around these problems and not being totally unabashed through the same old fears of name calling is going to further the cause and protect our own people then personally i dont know why you/we could possibly expect anything different to what we have now.

This whole fear of the word " race " is what has got us to a point we now may not be able to come back from......and you think avoiding it even longer is the answer,maybe its you that needs to wake up !....or do they just have you so mentally subjugated that you think old Elsie and her mates round the Post Office are fearful of labels to the point they are happy to take part in their own destruction ....how long do you think we have before we reach a point we cannot come back from.......a point that to survive as a nation we will be forced to address the problem via race and re migration ?

Why are we so scared of this evil word,infact how evil is the word anyway.....this word that has had tyrannical laws brought in to protect people from having their feelings hurt,so evil that it has literally brought down Western society and brought about rapid demographic change for our country and across Europe.....to me foreign invaders wielding power over my countries native people is a far higher level of evil than a person being called in insulting name.....which i know you will agree with,but until we stop running away from the problem and embrace it with sensible,honest if somewhat uncomfortable conversations then its only going to get worse.

Farage while being a brilliant politician,along with all the others of his ilk will run in whatever way the wind is blowing with whatever party name they believe will keep people away from addressing and confronting the real problems......to me getting behind and supporting a political party who hates me and who doesnt represent me i just see as pointless and counter productive but thats just how i see it.....all the best :thumbs:

Yes mate I remember. I was out pushing leaflets. I also remember how they tore themselves to pieces arguing among themselves. And it died a death. 

There are well respected lads on here with mixed race kids.....I have no intention of goose stepping up their path and talking about race. I might agree with you in many ways but that boat has sailed. 

As I said to Borr, if you in Lancashire feel free to drop in, I have masses of nationalist literature and we can sit in my fort and read it while playing crusaders.

And to both of you....I ain't even joking 😃 

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2 hours ago, gnasher16 said:

Do you remember back in the late 90's/early 00's when the BNP were actually looking like a force in certain parts of the country......when many of us actually thought it could be the start of something......i do......and i also remember hearing people say the same sort of stuff you are saying here......and what happened....it got ten times worse.

Reform/Farage are a wooden spoon put in place by the same people who gave you that " ten times worse ".....they are a consolation,a booby prize where you think your ocean liner is turning when in reality its stayed perfectly still while some clever c**t has given you something " new " to cling to having just written a new name down the side !

If you believe that a unified destruction of the British people ( which is what we are going through ) can be fought against by avoiding the actual fight then you're up against the old theory of expecting change from doing the same again.

The idea of Marxism is to de nationalise a country,strip away our identity so that you produce and consume while believing the state to be benevolent and on your side,non confrontational on the major and obvious issues of the time .....a backhander of anything meaningful or worthwhile coming in the material form,a reward almost .............but its coming at the cost of having to cover up rape gangs,machete attacks,Fgm and every other race related issue.

Ethnic Nationalists have a moral standard and one of those standards is that we put our native population first,no matter what....its a very strong stance granted but it is setting a standard just like other European nations are starting to do to protect their own people and children.....putting pressure on diversity driven politicians who are not acting on behalf of native Brits and who are infact at war with native Brits via the police,the media,unions etc with standards so concrete in their aims that they cannot be broken through with anything less than priority to our own.

These are the standards we need to set,we have to let go of this embarrassment and uncomfortable feeling regards racial difference,if you think dilly dallying around these problems and not being totally unabashed through the same old fears of name calling is going to further the cause and protect our own people then personally i dont know why you/we could possibly expect anything different to what we have now.

This whole fear of the word " race " is what has got us to a point we now may not be able to come back from......and you think avoiding it even longer is the answer,maybe its you that needs to wake up !....or do they just have you so mentally subjugated that you think old Elsie and her mates round the Post Office are fearful of labels to the point they are happy to take part in their own destruction ....how long do you think we have before we reach a point we cannot come back from.......a point that to survive as a nation we will be forced to address the problem via race and re migration ?

Why are we so scared of this evil word,infact how evil is the word anyway.....this word that has had tyrannical laws brought in to protect people from having their feelings hurt,so evil that it has literally brought down Western society and brought about rapid demographic change for our country and across Europe.....to me foreign invaders wielding power over my countries native people is a far higher level of evil than a person being called in insulting name.....which i know you will agree with,but until we stop running away from the problem and embrace it with sensible,honest if somewhat uncomfortable conversations then its only going to get worse.

Farage while being a brilliant politician,along with all the others of his ilk will run in whatever way the wind is blowing with whatever party name they believe will keep people away from addressing and confronting the real problems......to me getting behind and supporting a political party who hates me and who doesnt represent me i just see as pointless and counter productive but thats just how i see it.....all the best :thumbs:

Posts like that are why we will never get anywhere, this plays straight in to their hands. Your obsession with race has certainly clouded your judgement and common sense. Britain has been multicultural for decades now, this is generations deep. Your white utopia is beyond fantasy and anyone even implying those sorts of ideas would gain no political traction whatsoever.

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18 minutes ago, Pardus said:

Posts like that are why we will never get anywhere, this plays straight in to their hands. Your obsession with race has certainly clouded your judgement and common sense. Britain has been multicultural for decades now, this is generations deep. Your white utopia is beyond fantasy and anyone even implying those sorts of ideas would gain no political traction whatsoever.

Sadly....I at least partly agree 

Yes we have to secure and protect a future for our race.... just like the other races want for their. And everyone one can see multiculturalism has failed.....

.....but as greb has said it's generations deep. You have to switch on and look at a bigger picture....like the leftist liberals did

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2 hours ago, Bendigo said:

Yes mate I remember. I was out pushing leaflets. I also remember how they tore themselves to pieces arguing among themselves. And it died a death. 

There are well respected lads on here with mixed race kids.....I have no intention of goose stepping up their path and talking about race. I might agree with you in many ways but that boat has sailed. 

As I said to Borr, if you in Lancashire feel free to drop in, I have masses of nationalist literature and we can sit in my fort and read it while playing crusaders.

And to both of you....I ain't even joking 😃 

 

2 hours ago, Pardus said:

Posts like that are why we will never get anywhere, this plays straight in to their hands. Your obsession with race has certainly clouded your judgement and common sense. Britain has been multicultural for decades now, this is generations deep. Your white utopia is beyond fantasy and anyone even implying those sorts of ideas would gain no political traction whatsoever.

I would ask though, what wrong with having a base starting point ?……as in “How many non indigenous  Europeans should be here” then the first though is “zero” and we go from there if we want to be all sensible about it…….

If we come at this from the point of view that they are, as a matter of fact and not discrimination, all guests then everything else falls into place. 
 

I don’t think it’s disrespectful to anyone if you say things honestly and without malice…..if we are being logical, civilised human beings with an Oz of brains then we understand that saying “indigenous Europeans are white” isn’t a revolutionary act, it implies no malice, it doesn’t render harm…..it’s just a stone cold fact.

And so it follows that non white people in Europe will only ever be guests, they can never be indigenous Europeans anymore than an indigenous European can go off and be an aborigine! 
 

We have been fooled into thinking facts are hate, they are not hate….its a ridiculous concept.

I understand well the argument for how politicians have to present things to a public who are by and large mongs because they have lost the ability of logical thought, but I also understand that there has to be a standard.

Just look at the video I posted of Matt Goodwin having to perform absolute verbal summersaults about can black people be English in order to just not be strung up……in a common sense world he just says “No, because indigenous Europeans of any nation are white” simple ! 
 

How can we hope for sanity anywhere when we can’t even speak simple truths ? 
My mates married to a Thai bird…..he don’t loose his shit if I say “your Mrs is Thai !” Because it’s true.

I can think of myself as a golden eagle, but I’ll never be one…..should I be upset or offended every time someone says “Well, you’re not a golden eagle”

If we can’t even accept that there is in fact a standard and an obvious standard that we can all see for ourselves then what the f**k can we do ? 
Not talking about the obvious is what we all hate about politicians anyway isn’t it ? 

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1 hour ago, WILF said:

 

I would ask though, what wrong with having a base starting point ?……as in “How many non indigenous  Europeans should be here” then the first though is “zero” and we go from there if we want to be all sensible about it…….

If we come at this from the point of view that they are, as a matter of fact and not discrimination, all guests then everything else falls into place. 
 

I don’t think it’s disrespectful to anyone if you say things honestly and without malice…..if we are being logical, civilised human beings with an Oz of brains then we understand that saying “indigenous Europeans are white” isn’t a revolutionary act, it implies no malice, it doesn’t render harm…..it’s just a stone cold fact.

And so it follows that non white people in Europe will only ever be guests, they can never be indigenous Europeans anymore than an indigenous European can go off and be an aborigine! 
 

We have been fooled into thinking facts are hate, they are not hate….its a ridiculous concept.

I understand well the argument for how politicians have to present things to a public who are by and large mongs because they have lost the ability of logical thought, but I also understand that there has to be a standard.

Just look at the video I posted of Matt Goodwin having to perform absolute verbal summersaults about can black people be English in order to it to just not be strung up……in a common sense world he just says “No, because indigenous Europeans of any nation are white” simple ! 
 

How can we hope for sanity anywhere when we can’t even speak simple truths ? 
My mates married to a Thai bird…..he don’t loose his shit if I say “your Mrs is Thai !” Because it’s true.

I can think of myself as a golden eagle, but I’ll never be one…..should I be upset or offended every time someone says “Well, you’re not a golden eagle”

If we can’t even accept that there is in fact a standard and an obvious standard that we can all see for ourselves then what the f**k can we do ? 
Not talking about the obvious is what we all hate about politicians anyway isn’t it ? 

Your starting point is not logical at all and is basically rooted in racial purity ideology rather than reality. Modern Britain has been ethnically mixed for decades, how do you propose we deal with these "guests" that are born & bred here and are citizens with exactly the same rights as me & you?

Your confusing biological facts with  political intent, of course it's not hateful to say "someone is Thai" Using "someone is Thai" to argue they should have lesser rights, that they don't belong here, deport them all, is hateful. The analogy to Golden Eagles is meaningless, citizenship is a legally binding status, not a species classification. Lol

Can you or I call ourselves English? I mean I have Irish & Scottish ancestry, don't you have Romani traveller ancestry? Being English/British isn't just about skin colour is it? 

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30 minutes ago, Pardus said:

Your starting point is not logical at all and is basically rooted in racial purity ideology rather than reality. Modern Britain has been ethnically mixed for decades, how do you propose we deal with these "guests" that are born & bred here and are citizens with exactly the same rights as me & you?

Your confusing biological facts with  political intent, of course it's not hateful to say "someone is Thai" Using "someone is Thai" to argue they should have lesser rights, that they don't belong here, deport them all, is hateful. The analogy to Golden Eagles is meaningless, citizenship is a legally binding status, not a species classification. Lol

Can you or I call ourselves English? I mean I have Irish & Scottish ancestry, don't you have Romani traveller ancestry? Being English isn't just about skin colour is it? 

Nonsense ! 

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10 minutes ago, Pardus said:

Facts before feelings mate.

Without a point of reference how do you achieve anything ? 
Go on, tell me ? 
 

So both Gnasher and Bendingo are both right at the same time imho, Gnasher in as much as there has to be and honest, logical point of reference that we should just say !

Bendingo in as much as, yes, you do have to cater the narrative for retards ! 
 

People much like you who are either too scared, too unwilling or too stupid to understand that what we have now is an abnormal situation…..people want to have honest conversations but they don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings, that can never, ever be guaranteed any way you dice it. 

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12 minutes ago, WILF said:

Without a point of reference how do you achieve anything ? 
Go on, tell me ? 
 

So both Gnasher and Bendingo are both right at the same time imho, Gnasher in as much as there has to be and honest, logical point of reference that we should just say !

Bendingo in as much as, yes, you do have to cater the narrative for retards ! 
 

People much like you who are either too scared, too unwilling or too stupid to understand that what we have now is an abnormal situation…..people want to have honest conversations but they don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings, that can never, ever be guaranteed any way you dice it. 

A reference? How about start by refusing any further asylum applications!

I'm not the one that ran away to vent on the web, you took the cowards way out, it's no wonder these people got a strong foothold in your locality? Perhaps if you had more backbone then we wouldn't be in the mess we now are? 

Again, the people are worried about immigration controls, not some racial ideology bollocks that we moved on from ages ago.

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