Leo Sayer 3,718 Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 Hi my name is Leo and identify as a Meat n Potatoe pie ....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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WILF 51,120 Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 (edited) 10 hours ago, TOMO said: That’s interesting mate and probably the most succinct explanation of what I suspect most of us who don’t live in a land of fantasy are thinking except we don’t have the education or skills to put it into such a well worded package. I think most of us are baffled as why obviously insane things are treated and talked about like they are real…..as he said at the end ”supportive” because that’s what we are told we have to do…..in reality we would not have a serious conversation with someone who said they were going to land a rocket on the sun, we would just say “nice dream but you know it’s not real” and we wouldn’t have any conversations like it was real….we would just move on. Sadly, it’s the common narrative to say that calling things what they are must mean you hate someone or something and so I think many are scared to do that…..maybe not overtly scared but even subconsciously. Edited to add: My wife’s dementia training tells people caring for those with dementia not to object with the patients fantasy but to just go along with it because it’s the objection that causes the distress in the patient…..in that scenario I can see how going along with a fantasy is the kindest and most humane thing. A 50 year old plumber pretending to be a bird isn’t that ! Edited April 25 by WILF 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 29,254 Posted April 25 Author Report Share Posted April 25 1 hour ago, WILF said: That’s interesting mate and probably the most succinct explanation of what I suspect most of us who don’t live in a land of fantasy are thinking except we don’t have the education or skills to put it into such a well worded package. I think most of us are baffled as why obviously insane things are treated and talked about like they are real…..as he said at the end ”supportive” because that’s what we are told we have to do…..in reality we would not have a serious conversation with someone who said they were going to land a rocket on the sun, we would just say “nice dream but you know it’s not real” and we wouldn’t have any conversations like it was real….we would just move on. Sadly, it’s the common narrative to say that calling things what they are must mean you hate someone or something and so I think many are scared to do that…..maybe not overtly scared but even subconsciously. Edited to add: My wife’s dementia training tells people caring for those with dementia not to object with the patients fantasy but to just go along with it because it’s the objection that causes the distress in the patient…..in that scenario I can see how going along with a fantasy is the kindest and most humane thing. A 50 year old plumber pretending to be a bird isn’t that ! I read through some of the comments on the the film...I was hoping to see if any alphabet people commented and had a pop at him....I didn't see any....in fact there were a few trans people that agreed with him ...and some that regretted getting any surgery and some that were transitioning back to there original sex Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 51,120 Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 Just now, TOMO said: I read through some of the comments on the the film...I was hoping to see if any alphabet people commented and had a pop at him....I didn't see any....in fact there were a few trans people that agreed with him ...and some that regretted getting any surgery and some that were transitioning back to there original sex What we are doing in so many walks of life (imho) is mistaking a cruelty for a kindness….. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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