Advice.

[jukel123 9,291]

Young fella asked my advice. His pup, 12 month old, saluki type, hunts up for ages when the lamp goes off and comes back knackered. How can he get it to return as soon as lamp goes off?

I ruined my first lurcher over 40 years ago by not training it from a pup to return after the lamp goes off. Now I wouldn't take a pup lamping until I had ingrained recall into it. Generally not until the second season. I do it by whistle/reward when it returns and whistle/shake by the scruff when it doesn't obey. I can honestly say every lurcher I've had since my first one has had near perfect recall by that method.pretty soon they do naturally,no whistle needed.

But training a dog with the existing fault is I think almost impossible. Especially since it's a sensitive type. I think shaking by the scruff would be counter productive with this dog

However some off you guys may have ideas? Any help appreciated.

 

Edited February 10, 2017 by jukel123

[terryd 8,925]

I am not the person to give advice lol. But I found with mine when he ran a rabbit I got up close with in a few yards then called him in. He was more likely to listen if I was close. Then slip back on and quickly on to the next and it just got the habit forming. Also a glow stick on the collar just helps keep tabs. Mine belts straight back now so some thing worked. I also gave mine plenty of recall during the day and used a long line so he had no choice. Just my experiences with mine. probably all wrong

[terryd 8,925]

and course associate the recall with a flash of the lamp at the feet so in the end thats all you need

[Dan25 87]

Shock collar but just use vibrate works well

[Terrier1978 14]

Young fella asked my advice. His pup, 12 month old, saluki type, hunts up for ages when the lamp goes off and comes back knackered. How can he get it to return as soon as lamp goes off?

I ruined my first lurcher over 40 years ago by not training it from a pup to return after the lamp goes off. Now I wouldn't take a pup lamping until I had ingrained recall into it. Generally not until the second season. I do it by whistle/reward when it returns and whistle/shake by the scruff when it doesn't obey. I can honestly say every lurcher I've had since my first one has had near perfect recall by that method.pretty soon they do naturally,no whistle needed.

But training a dog with the existing fault is I think almost impossible. Especially since it's a sensitive type. I think shaking by the scruff would be counter productive with this dog

However some off you guys may have ideas? Any help appreciated.

 

How does scruffing a dog help with recall chap? Surely the dog will just learn to think you're a wanker and not come near????

[TeDuke 276]

Pick it's runs a bit more carefully giving it a better chance of catching, sounds like it's frustrated at missing and has decided to find them himself, me personally I'd leave lamping until next season get the bond and recall sorted over the summer and start a fresh come September

Edited February 10, 2017 by TeDuke

[jukel123 9,291]

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Young fella asked my advice. His pup, 12 month old, saluki type, hunts up for ages when the lamp goes off and comes back knackered. How can he get it to return as soon as lamp goes off?

I ruined my first lurcher over 40 years ago by not training it from a pup to return after the lamp goes off. Now I wouldn't take a pup lamping until I had ingrained recall into it. Generally not until the second season. I do it by whistle/reward when it returns and whistle/shake by the scruff when it doesn't obey. I can honestly say every lurcher I've had since my first one has had near perfect recall by that method.pretty soon they do naturally,no whistle needed.

But training a dog with the existing fault is I think almost impossible. Especially since it's a sensitive type. I think shaking by the scruff would be counter productive with this dog

However some off you guys may have ideas? Any help appreciated.

 

How does scruffing a dog help with recall chap? Surely the dog will just learn to think you're a wanker and not come near????

Ifthe pup does not come back when called, I get after it immediately and scruff it. The dog soon learns.I

Ts basic gun dog training,but it works for lurchers too.I use a long line too if needed.Thanks for the shock collar suggestion. I know a guy who has one.I will get him to demonstrate. I'm told you must know what you are doing with them.cheers.

[terryd 8,925]

I would skip the collar personally or just use the vibrate to get its attention maybe. If he gets tempted to start zapping the dog in the dark how ever slight when it hasnt a clue what its meant to be doing he may just end up with a dog scared of its own tail. Just needs to stick at it and like tduke says if its caught the rabbit or the bulk of them the problem starts to solve its self

[TeDuke 276]

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Young fella asked my advice. His pup, 12 month old, saluki type, hunts up for ages when the lamp goes off and comes back knackered. How can he get it to return as soon as lamp goes off?

I ruined my first lurcher over 40 years ago by not training it from a pup to return after the lamp goes off. Now I wouldn't take a pup lamping until I had ingrained recall into it. Generally not until the second season. I do it by whistle/reward when it returns and whistle/shake by the scruff when it doesn't obey. I can honestly say every lurcher I've had since my first one has had near perfect recall by that method.pretty soon they do naturally,no whistle needed.

But training a dog with the existing fault is I think almost impossible. Especially since it's a sensitive type. I think shaking by the scruff would be counter productive with this dog

However some off you guys may have ideas? Any help appreciated.

 

How does scruffing a dog help with recall chap? Surely the dog will just learn to think you're a wanker and not come near????

Ifthe pup does not come back when called, I get after it immediately and scruff it. The dog soon learns.I

Ts basic gun dog training,but it works for lurchers too.I use a long line too if needed.Thanks for the shock collar suggestion. I know a guy who has one.I will get him to demonstrate. I'm told you must know what you are doing with them.cheers.

I wouldn't be charging after a saluki or a sal x and scruffing it in the field, they don't handle that kind of treatment to well it'll just end up f***ing off again and he'll be more irate, you've got to molly coddle them flighty types, I remember when I had my first sal x she was flighty, I bumped into an old boy while out, we got talking he had a sal x and a terrier lurcher he told me me be to be very careful with how i disciplined the sal x, he said he could give the terrier lurcher a whack and 5 mins later they'd be best friends again where as if he even lifted his hand to the sal x it took him a couple of days to come back round to him, needless to say the old boy was right and the problem was sorted