S410 Tdr

[Rabid 1,936]

Hi, I have recently acquired an air arms s410 tdr as I just fancied something different.

 

I bought it unseen, and took a chance, however, I hate the cocking, it feels god awful, it's hard to cock, and more often than not I haven't cocked it enough to take the next shot.

 

Otherwise I quite like it, but if I cannot do something with it then it's got a go, so, suggestions please.........

[Rez 4,961]

So. Suggestions for what? I assume the bolt issue and not a new rifle.

 

The bolt issue is quite common, I have to confess I don't mind know the exact reason for it but my mrs old mans 410 has the same issue, but clearly not as bad as your TDR.

 

You can of course find out more on the AA owners groups on social media.

 

How would you go about selling it then...? As you'd almost need to flog it the way you bought it, otherwise a prospective buyer will just walk away. It's seems you'll have to get it fixed, whatever you want to do.

 

Shame, as the TDR are good old poachers rifle

[Rabid 1,936]

Hi Rez, yes looking to see if anyone could shed any light on the cocking, if it's a common problem and there was a 'fix', or perhaps an upgrade for it that irons the problem out.

 

I have many rifles, and a couple are on the ' not easy to cock' side, but this one is a nightmare, it's a case of point the rifle at the ground and wrench the bolt back while bracing against the rifle, it really is that difficult, and I am no weakling, my Mrs has managed to cock it once !

 

Something obviously not right with it.

[Durham John 693]

Rabid,

have you checked the power?

seems its got and over strong plunger spring

or is the bolt really stiff without cocking/pulling back

[philpot 5,091]

I find most AA guns have a similar cocking issue, I don't think it is a problem just the design. I picked a 410 for my son in law which was the same and was advised by the RFD that with AA bolt action guns you should use your thumb to centralize the bolt when pulling it back which does seem to work.

 

Phil

[Rabid 1,936]

I am going to chrono it today, if I can cock it lol.

[Durham John 693]

Did you manage to get it cooked gor the crony then mate.

Or are we to see it in the classifieds lol

[Rabid 1,936]

Will do it very shortly, am hoping I don't have to sell it for that reason, really it needs sorting, a guy I know said a guy called Ben Taylor supposed to be quite good with them.

[Durham John 693]

Depends how much you want to spend getting it sorted, also depends what is wrong with it.

You may be cutting your losses by getting shot.

Keeps sticking in my mind the seller palmed it of to you without telling you there's a problem, so what else may be wrong. Hope you didn't pay big money for it mate.

 

DJ

[Rabid 1,936]

Depends how much you want to spend getting it sorted, also depends what is wrong with it.

You may be cutting your losses by getting shot.

Keeps sticking in my mind the seller palmed it of to you without telling you there's a problem, so what else may be wrong. Hope you didn't pay big money for it mate.

DJ

Thanks John, but what little I have tried it, seems to be pretty good, very accurate, seems it's just the cocking, gun is mint and I didn't pay a lot for it, in fact it was very cheap really. I can justify £150 ish and still get my money back.

 

Wouldn't want to sell as it is, I would feel bad about doing that, so rather sort it out, then if I don't like it I will sell as a sorted gun.

[Rabid 1,936]

Well, spent some time with it today, put quite a few through it and it has loosened up quite well, run a few through the chrono and it's pretty consistent at a tad over 11ftlb.

 

One thing I will say, at 35 yards it is accurate, very accurate, putting them into a 5p sized group every time, and that was with some fair wind gusting on and off, that really impressed me.

 

Still don't like the cocking, even though it's loosened up a lot, it still feels alien compared to anything else I have.

[davyt63 1,845]

Hi Rabid

On the bolt housing,there is the cam plate cover,loosen the three screws and re tighten (hand tight) them but don't over tighten them,this should sort out the cocking action.

 

Other alternatives would be to polish the bolt and degrease and regrease all moving parts with some moly.

Or the guide rail has a muck on it restricting the hammer from moving back freely,when cocking the bolt.

But 9/10 it will be the cam plate is to tight,restricting it's movement.

 

Hope this helps?

[davyt63 1,845]

Hi Rez, yes looking to see if anyone could shed any light on the cocking, if it's a common problem and there was a 'fix', or perhaps an upgrade for it that irons the problem out.

I have many rifles, and a couple are on the ' not easy to cock' side, but this one is a nightmare, it's a case of point the rifle at the ground and wrench the bolt back while bracing against the rifle, it really is that difficult, and I am no weakling, my Mrs has managed to cock it once !

Something obviously not right with it.

It's an easy fix buddy,and easy to get to.

[Rabid 1,936]

Hi Rabid

On the bolt housing,there is the cam plate cover,loosen the three screws and re tighten (hand tight) them but don't over tighten them,this should sort out the cocking action.

Other alternatives would be to polish the bolt and degrease and regrease all moving parts with some moly.

Or the guide rail has a muck on it restricting the hammer from moving back freely,when cocking the bolt.

But 9/10 it will be the cam plate is to tight,restricting it's movement.

Hope this helps?

Yes, that helps a lot mate, thanks for the info, I will be having a look at it this week hopefully, be nice to sort it out as from what I have done so far it's a bloody accurate tool.

[Durham John 693]

How is the tdr performing now mate,

 

if you followed davys tip the cocking indexing should be easier,

is the little brass index spring working ok indexing the mag to full rotation as that can cause a poor line up and be hard to push bolt forward again

 

regards DJ