neil cooney 10,416 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 I used to be a big boxing fan but nowadays I'd rather read about the Golden Era than the politically correct contests of today. Not digging you out mate just curious to know what you mean by that comment......" politically correct contests " ?.......havent heard that before,how do you mean ? I hear ya Gnasher, I'm probably the first person to use the PC thing with boxing, LOL. When I did follow boxing you'd never see a ref stop a fight because a fighter was taking it hard but the whole McClelland, Watson thing knocked that on the head and maybe that was for the right. But back in those days I used to watch and read just about anything that was related to boxing. They reckoned in his day Ali would hang on the ropes and take ten to the head while catching his breath, nowadays that fight would be stopped, and there were also many boxers too who wouldn't find their rhythm 'till round 5 or 6. In other words they'd be a punch bag for those rounds and then start to fight. To come back from behind is the ULTIMATE sign of gameness. It doesn't happen anymore. It would be stopped. BUT, if you go even further back, which would be the history books because we have no footage, the gameness of pugilists was even greater. Fights going on 'till dark and resuming at daybreak and I can't remember which but didn't either "Gentleman" Jim Corbett or John L Sullivan win a heavy weight championship with two broken hands. Proper fighters IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 I used to be a big boxing fan but nowadays I'd rather read about the Golden Era than the politically correct contests of today. Not digging you out mate just curious to know what you mean by that comment......" politically correct contests " ?.......havent heard that before,how do you mean ? I hear ya Gnasher, I'm probably the first person to use the PC thing with boxing, LOL.When I did follow boxing you'd never see a ref stop a fight because a fighter was taking it hard but the whole McClelland, Watson thing knocked that on the head and maybe that was for the right. But back in those days I used to watch and read just about anything that was related to boxing. They reckoned in his day Ali would hang on the ropes and take ten to the head while catching his breath, nowadays that fight would be stopped, and there were also many boxers too who wouldn't find their rhythm 'till round 5 or 6. In other words they'd be a punch bag for those rounds and then start to fight. To come back from behind is the ULTIMATE sign of gameness. It doesn't happen anymore. It would be stopped. BUT, if you go even further back, which would be the history books because we have no footage, the gameness of pugilists was even greater. Fights going on 'till dark and resuming at daybreak and I can't remember which but didn't either "Gentleman" Jim Corbett or John L Sullivan win a heavy weight championship with two broken hands. Proper fighters IMO. I hear what you're saying fella but I personally wouldn't get much enjoyment from seeing a man taking heavy blows to the head round after round "hanging on in there" in the hope that he makes a rocky style come back in the late rounds. I do get what you are saying but don't really agree. I think the rules and stoppages and definitely for the better. The boxer can come back another day to fight again if he thought the stoppage was a tad unfair and that in itself shows plenty of heart. Just my two pence worth. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bosun11 537 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Alex, do remember that old picture/poster that came out in the 70's 'They Boxed At The Stadium' was its title. A collection of all the old Liverpool fighters from way back? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Astanley 11,640 Posted May 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Alex, do remember that old picture/poster that came out in the 70's 'They Boxed At The Stadium' was its title. A collection of all the old Liverpool fighters from way back? I do mate ,Nel Tarleton ,Dom Volante etc ,they missed me out though ,still rankles a bit . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,499 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) I used to be a big boxing fan but nowadays I'd rather read about the Golden Era than the politically correct contests of today. Not digging you out mate just curious to know what you mean by that comment......" politically correct contests " ?.......havent heard that before,how do you mean ? I hear ya Gnasher, I'm probably the first person to use the PC thing with boxing, LOL. When I did follow boxing you'd never see a ref stop a fight because a fighter was taking it hard but the whole McClelland, Watson thing knocked that on the head and maybe that was for the right. But back in those days I used to watch and read just about anything that was related to boxing. They reckoned in his day Ali would hang on the ropes and take ten to the head while catching his breath, nowadays that fight would be stopped, and there were also many boxers too who wouldn't find their rhythm 'till round 5 or 6. In other words they'd be a punch bag for those rounds and then start to fight. To come back from behind is the ULTIMATE sign of gameness. It doesn't happen anymore. It would be stopped. BUT, if you go even further back, which would be the history books because we have no footage, the gameness of pugilists was even greater. Fights going on 'till dark and resuming at daybreak and I can't remember which but didn't either "Gentleman" Jim Corbett or John L Sullivan win a heavy weight championship with two broken hands. Proper fighters IMO. I get you mate.......cant really say as i agree for much the same reason as Gaz says......with todays level of fitness that fighters have gameness will be seen less and less.......im all for going back to 15 round fights so that the old " championship rounds " come into play more but still the damage fighters can do to each other in the highly tuned condition they are in today has to be taken into account when calling a stoppage its not like the old days where fighters carried that little bit more weight to offer them protection these lads today are thoroughly peaked for performance and every bit the proper fighters those guys were years ago in my opinion.......but i get the general point your making from a viewers point of view its maybe not as exciting ......still never heard it called " pc " before though Edited May 18, 2016 by gnasher16 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neil cooney 10,416 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 I used to be a big boxing fan but nowadays I'd rather read about the Golden Era than the politically correct contests of today. Not digging you out mate just curious to know what you mean by that comment......" politically correct contests " ?.......havent heard that before,how do you mean ? I hear ya Gnasher, I'm probably the first person to use the PC thing with boxing, LOL.When I did follow boxing you'd never see a ref stop a fight because a fighter was taking it hard but the whole McClelland, Watson thing knocked that on the head and maybe that was for the right. But back in those days I used to watch and read just about anything that was related to boxing. They reckoned in his day Ali would hang on the ropes and take ten to the head while catching his breath, nowadays that fight would be stopped, and there were also many boxers too who wouldn't find their rhythm 'till round 5 or 6. In other words they'd be a punch bag for those rounds and then start to fight. To come back from behind is the ULTIMATE sign of gameness. It doesn't happen anymore. It would be stopped. BUT, if you go even further back, which would be the history books because we have no footage, the gameness of pugilists was even greater. Fights going on 'till dark and resuming at daybreak and I can't remember which but didn't either "Gentleman" Jim Corbett or John L Sullivan win a heavy weight championship with two broken hands. Proper fighters IMO. I hear what you're saying fella but I personally wouldn't get much enjoyment from seeing a man taking heavy blows to the head round after round "hanging on in there" in the hope that he makes a rocky style come back in the late rounds. I do get what you are saying but don't really agree. I think the rules and stoppages and definitely for the better. The boxer can come back another day to fight again if he thought the stoppage was a tad unfair and that in itself shows plenty of heart. Just my two pence worth. So in other words coming out all guns blazing is whats required, not gameness. I know what you're saying and in this day and age no one wants to see death or long time illness (just look at the greatest) but the men of yesterday were of a different league. Maybe not in style or technique but in gameness and IMO gameness is what a fight should be all about. Same as any sport, he who wants it most wins. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 I used to be a big boxing fan but nowadays I'd rather read about the Golden Era than the politically correct contests of today. Not digging you out mate just curious to know what you mean by that comment......" politically correct contests " ?.......havent heard that before,how do you mean ? I hear ya Gnasher, I'm probably the first person to use the PC thing with boxing, LOL.When I did follow boxing you'd never see a ref stop a fight because a fighter was taking it hard but the whole McClelland, Watson thing knocked that on the head and maybe that was for the right. But back in those days I used to watch and read just about anything that was related to boxing. They reckoned in his day Ali would hang on the ropes and take ten to the head while catching his breath, nowadays that fight would be stopped, and there were also many boxers too who wouldn't find their rhythm 'till round 5 or 6. In other words they'd be a punch bag for those rounds and then start to fight. To come back from behind is the ULTIMATE sign of gameness. It doesn't happen anymore. It would be stopped. BUT, if you go even further back, which would be the history books because we have no footage, the gameness of pugilists was even greater. Fights going on 'till dark and resuming at daybreak and I can't remember which but didn't either "Gentleman" Jim Corbett or John L Sullivan win a heavy weight championship with two broken hands. Proper fighters IMO. I hear what you're saying fella but I personally wouldn't get much enjoyment from seeing a man taking heavy blows to the head round after round "hanging on in there" in the hope that he makes a rocky style come back in the late rounds. I do get what you are saying but don't really agree. I think the rules and stoppages and definitely for the better. The boxer can come back another day to fight again if he thought the stoppage was a tad unfair and that in itself shows plenty of heart. Just my two pence worth. So in other words coming out all guns blazing is whats required, not gameness.I know what you're saying and in this day and age no one wants to see death or long time illness (just look at the greatest) but the men of yesterday were of a different league. Maybe not in style or technique but in gameness and IMO gameness is what a fight should be all about. Same as any sport, he who wants it most wins. A 12 round fight can be a slog mate, that isn't really all guns blazing. There may be fewer "game" fighters about now due to protection but there are still plenty of game lads about. Only the other week we saw the heart of a lion in Nick Blackwell. That lad would of died in the ring that night wether it was 12 rounds or 20. And there are others like him. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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