WILF 51,112 Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Well said BH, tax and morality have absolutely nothing to do with each other. But there IS a morality involved when a PM demands that we all pay our taxes and makes a big deal of clamping down on the likes of Google and Starbucks, when he and his family have avoided taxes for years........... I see it more as kismet mate, they have fallen into their own trap of bullshit......if people were just honest and said its only logical to use whatever legal means are available to keep as much of the money YOU earn away from the wasteful state as possible then there wouldn't be any problem. And, as Born Hunter rightfully says, if people didn't jump on these bandwagons and play along with the whole charade then there also wouldn't be a problem because nobody would care and it wouldn't be "news" I accept your point but I personally, I don't give a monkeys.......I'd like to thinks he avoided 99% of the liability and kept it from being pissed away without mercy. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Born Hunter 17,960 Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Well said BH, tax and morality have absolutely nothing to do with each other. But there IS a morality involved when a PM demands that we all pay our taxes and makes a big deal of clamping down on the likes of Google and Starbucks, when he and his family have avoided taxes for years........... I see it more as kismet mate, they have fallen into their own trap of bullshit......if people were just honest and said its only logical to use whatever legal means are available to keep as much of the money YOU earn away from the wasteful state as possible then there wouldn't be any problem. And, as Born Hunter rightfully says, if people didn't jump on these bandwagons and play along with the whole charade then there also wouldn't be a problem because nobody would care and it wouldn't be "news" I accept your point but I personally, I don't give a monkeys.......I'd like to thinks he avoided 99% of the liability and kept it from being pissed away without mercy. I think that's it Wilf, I don't think either of us would disagree that if you accept the current system as unquestionably right then what's going on here with tax avoidance etc is wrong. However, if you take the stance that the system is total bullshit then by jumping on this bandwagon you're only supporting the system! No matter if you get one over on the 'rich', you're still f***ing your own arse! It did amuse me when this panama scandal came out, a mate and I were on a tea break and after exchanging views did manage to agree on at least one thing..... How the feck is this news? Hasn't it been common knowledge since forever that wealthy folks do whatever they can to avoid tax through shell corporations and the likes! LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 51,112 Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Mate, I have always viewed tax as exactly what it is.......legalised appropriation of another persons money by the state......it's demanding money with menaces, nothing more, nothing less. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted April 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Fact for the day...... Income Tax was introproduced by Pitt the Younger in 1799, as a temporary measure, to find the Napoleonic Wars......... 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 51,112 Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Fact for the day...... Income Tax was introproduced by Pitt the Younger in 1799, as a temporary measure, to find the Napoleonic Wars......... I think it gos back further than that because the doomsday book was designed as a weapon of control, once the King knew what everyone had he could decide the best way to hurt them is they didn't comply with his demands and he could do it with much smaller forces ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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