Howa 1500 Compared To Tikka T3 In 223

[Marctitty 92]

Hi guys thinking off putting my howa in 223 in for a tikka 223 but is there any advantage with the tikka that I might benifit from or is it just down to personal preference

[Deker 3,478]

I would buy the Tikka every time over the 1500, but I'm struggling to see why you would want to change unless you are having a problem with it.

 

There is nothing wrong with the Howa, and if its working, accurate and you are easy with it why change?

[charlie caller 3,654]

Waste of time, they both do what they say on the tin, and do it well.

[Barmyfarmer 2]

Tikka t3 lite all the way!

[ianm 2,594]

Tikka T3 are a quality product, Howa not so much!

[charlie caller 3,654]

Tikka T3 are a quality product, Howa not so much!

What a load of crap, Howa/Weatherby, are superb bits of Japanese engineering, made to very close tolerances,as is most Jap engineered stuff,if they were not good quality, lots and lots of rifle builders would not use the Howa action as a base for their custom rifles.

[walshie 2,804]

I've got a Tikka T3 in 223 and my son has a Howa 1500 in 223. I'd say the Tikka edged it but not enough to swap one for the other.

[ianm 2,594]

 

Tikka T3 are a quality product, Howa not so much!

What a load of crap, Howa/Weatherby, are superb bits of Japanese engineering, made to very close tolerances,as is most Jap engineered stuff,if they were not good quality, lots and lots of rifle builders would not use the Howa action as a base for their custom rifles.

 

 

 

 

You are obviously not an engineer or you would know the difference. Rifle builders use them because they are a cheap source of components which they are going to machine to tight tolerances. Most so called rifle building is no more than trueing up the faces and lugs. A chap i know is ceracoting Howa's by the load on behalf of the importers highland outdoors because the stanard finish is crap and will rust. Highland outdoors operate by buying cheap goods by the shedload and turning them out quickly unfortunately Howa's are no longer cheap for what you get in comparison to some of the better quality rifles. Sorry to burst the Howa's are a quality product bubble but they aren't, they are ok but quality they ain't.

[charlie caller 3,654]

I am not an engineer by trade you are correct Ian, however I can spot well engineered products when I see them,having a background in mechanics does help, I am fully aware of the process of blueprinting,and trueing up faces and lugs, when building a custom rifle, but thankyou for pointing that out, I fail to see your correlation between your friend and his ceracoting business and engineering quality?All actions,I would suggest, even belonging to the most expensive hand made exquisite rifles and shotguns, costing many thousands of pounds, will rust if not cared for.

Howa also make stainless rifles which as you know, does not suffer from the vagaries of weather,wear and tear, like a blued action, now I have handled and fired a very many rifles in my time, as I am sure you have, the good the bad and the ugly, including an absolutely stunning Holland and Holland bolt action in .30-06 calibre, which would not produce better than a 11/2" group @100 yards even with handloads and a very very competent shot behind it, my Weatherby vanguard however, which has had little done in the way of custom work (save for a trigger job and replacement stock,and target crown) will produce tiny ragged one hole groups, (with handloads) @ 100 yards,even with just a half decent shot like myself at the helm, the bolt is slick with almost no play in its action, and will shoot most factory ammunition, into a 1/2" group, perhaps I am wrong, but that does seem to suggest some thought and quality control has been imparted by the makers, finally lets not forget that Howa/Weatherby sell guaranteed sub m.o.a rifles, not many other manufacturers do this, food for thought perhaps