Hunterhartley 8 Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) One for the Plumber owners, i've bought a Nuttall Patterdale and he's turning out to a one hell of dog, loyal, obedient, loves the kids, bites the mrs , great with other dogs, and he's a right little scrapper when he needs to be (when he see's quarry) BUT, and i find this strange, he won't kill the quarry he plays with it, runs round with it in his mouth, throws it about and when it's almost dead he just watches it and it looks like he's laughing! Is this because he is still a pup or do you think a companion would be better for him in the field? Reason i ask this is because my old mans got a Lab/Retriever and when you put these two dogs against each other they both fight for what what they want to win without being nasty with each other, i guess it's the greed in the dog that brings this out of them and in the field i think this may help my Patterdale... I was thinking of getting a little plumber terrier to work with my Patterdale, i like the look of them, and more importantly they were breed for what i like to hunt a lot, Rats and tree rats. Wondered what you Plumber owners thought of hunting the two dogs together, would it be a good combination ? would they got on? Do i get a bitch or another dog and more importantly ...will the Plumber bite the mrs too! haha (joking about the mrs part by the way, god bless her!) Just after a bit of advise really, the dogs will be worked all the time but pets too, my little ones are only 8 and 5 Cheers Rob Edited February 17, 2015 by Hunterhartley Quote Link to post
leethedog 3,071 Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) I don't own a plummer but same as any other terrier they should get on I've got a Russell and a patt both dogs the Russell is 6 and the patt is 7 months and the proper love each other always playing even clean each other and yes your patt plays with stuff because he is young don't worry about it but competition will egg him on mine live in too Edited February 17, 2015 by leethedog Quote Link to post
leethedog 3,071 Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Oh yeah if he ain't bib bitten by a rat yet when he does he will soon change 3 Quote Link to post
Hunterhartley 8 Posted February 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 I don't own a plummer but same as any other terrier they should get on I've got a Russell and a patt both dogs the Russell is 6 and the patt is 7 months and the proper love each other always playing even clean each other and yes your patt plays with stuff because he is young don't worry about it but competition will egg him on mine live in too Yeah i am not a believer in a dog living in the house but mine has had to come in for the winter, i have built him a good kennel outdoors and he really like going in it but not while the weather is like this, he shivers if i leave him out and much prefers it by the fire with an antler haha I have grown up with Rottys (security) but with my little ones being young and rottys being so powerfull i did'nt want to get another for that reason only (great dog though) As ive got older my hobbies have changed, i'm outdoors all the time and i like hunting of all kinds, he's a great companion for me and the family but he kind of only does what i tell him (still young) Funny you say that (being bit), he was bit on the nose by a squirrel this morning, he didn't kill it but it was as good as dead by the time he ran around with it in his mouth, he did the same thing with a rabbit a few weeks ago, instincts on these dogs is phenominal, he is like a cat on the prowel when he sees something, head goes down to the floor like an arrow and he walks in slow motion, then he's off! like lightning...brilliant to watch I like the dog to get in there and finish em off sharpish which is why i am thinking getting another, If my dog has something and another wants it, what ever it is is getting killed straight away because they will both rag it instantly if you know what i mean 1 Quote Link to post
Hunterhartley 8 Posted February 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Oh yeah if he ain't bib bitten by a rat yet when he does he will soon change I am de-ratting a shoot soon, got the smoker ready to put together and as soon as it's done and i have a bit of time off on a weekend i will be up there, keep you posted! Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,102 Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 On your own mate with just the one dog then de-ratting is very optomistic lol 2 Quote Link to post
leethedog 3,071 Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) Mate he is a baby let him mature he'll do the job he just needs th experience but DONT Over face him when you do the shoot try and take another dog or two if he gets to much stick it might ruin him for ever most dog will kill rats retrievers spaniels poodles any thing Edited February 17, 2015 by leethedog 1 Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 They're all different and sometimes a terrier isn't interested in something that's not a threat to them. Hence carrying the rat around. My old boy Spike at 7 months accidentally went to ground on a vixen and I had to dig to him. At 9 months he wouldn't look at a rat. Quote Link to post
Hunterhartley 8 Posted February 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 On your own mate with just the one dog then de-ratting is very optomistic lol No pal, we are taking the old mans dog as well , it should be interesting... I will take a video if i can Quote Link to post
Cleanspade 3,324 Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 its just a pup. just keep putting em in front of it. wait till its up a bit before getting another terrier of any breed. once its doing its job in style . then get a pup and it will bring the next one on for you. 3 Quote Link to post
Hunterhartley 8 Posted February 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 its just a pup. just keep putting em in front of it. wait till its up a bit before getting another terrier of any breed. once its doing its job in style . then get a pup and it will bring the next one on for you. yeah i was thinking of waiting until he is 1 at least, in the summer maybe, he's a very sharp dog but i think the best will only be brought out of him with a partner in crime, they love company Quote Link to post
mango 343 Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 patience and time are the best things to give your pup,he's got plenty of time in front of him so go steady and watch him mature into a really useful terrier. Quote Link to post
wirral countryman 2,110 Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) WM Edited February 20, 2015 by wirral countryman 4 Quote Link to post
Hunterhartley 8 Posted February 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 Its never a good idea bringing on 2 young dogs together, you need the terrier you have to focus on you,listen to what you want of it and get on with the work you give it,if you get another pup too soon your commands will not be heard as they will be too busy playing and fecking about,bring the pup you have on until your happy with what he does,good luck, WM Thanks Pal, good advise thanks a lot, yeah he's a great dog and i will get him a partner in time but your right, he still has a way to go yet before he is fully trained. Really like the look of the plumber terriers, i will have one without a doubt but im in no rush and it's one of the reasons i joined the forum to have a good read about them. Ive been watching the Seven valley ratters on youtube , brilliant little dogs, funny to watch Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 Its never a good idea bringing on 2 young dogs together, you need the terrier you have to focus on you,listen to what you want of it and get on with the work you give it,if you get another pup too soon your commands will not be heard as they will be too busy playing and fecking about,bring the pup you have on until your happy with what he does,good luck, WM That's all well and good if the standard of work you expect is of a low standard. But if your standard is high then by rearing 2, 3 or even 4 pups together you've increased your chances of ending up with 1 or 2 good ones. A pup should know it's name and come when called before it enters a field and once in the field ,as a pup, it should be allowed to be a pup but still come when called. Once they start to become saplings they should start to knuckle down and concentrate on their work. JMHO. 2 Quote Link to post
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