valboskie 39 Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 What is the best method or products to get rid of pitting on the action of a rifle. Im trying to restore a 1965 webley Falcon for my son as an open sight plinker. I sanded the bluing off with grit wet and dry nearly 4 hours of sanding and the whole Action looks leopard print it feels smooth in places but there are darker grey marks snd a few small holes. I know a few on here have restored rusty pitted rifles. How did you solve the problem. I want to blue it so any advice would be brilliant. Atb David Quote Link to post
davyt63 1,845 Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 birchwood & casey bluing kit,it has a rust remover.if you can get the end in a half inch chuck on a cordless drill,small amount of oil and wet n dry.you wont remove all the pitting depending on how deep,but it will look ten times better! or you could spray paint it,with two primer coats,and three top coats. plenty of info here http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/topic/293034-rifle-restoration-projects/ 1 Quote Link to post
valboskie 39 Posted February 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Hi davy I don't want to paint it. I did that to my meteor with plastikote bbq paint but it scratched to easy It will need re done . I was told I could use a fine file to get rid of the pitting has anyone else tried this. Cheers David Quote Link to post
Wildling 520 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Actual pitting can never be removed with something like steel wool or solvents because by definition there is metal missing and you can't put it back with abrasives. The only way to fix a pit that I know of (besides welding) is to lower the surrounding surface metal in a clean level manner called draw filing. Be careful attempting this however as once metals removed it doesn't go back ! Could you not try removing as much of the surface rust as possible and the epoxy coating the more pitted areas before then painting and lacquering, which does give a tougher finish than just paint alone. Or like Davy said a cold blue built up in layers to mask the pits as much as possible. Quote Link to post
mattybugeye 885 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 How deep is it? Any pics? I managed to get shut of 99% of bad pitting just sanding with really corse paper maybe try blueing remover at same time on the paper failing that as above build up with cold blue ?? Quote Link to post
valboskie 39 Posted February 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 matty here are some pictures of the rifle the way i got it i will take some more of where im at Quote Link to post
mattybugeye 885 Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) Yea that looks pretty deep but if you look at the barrel on mine it wss probably almost as bad I thaught about using a dremal on worst areas but would be hard to get a even finish after to be fair though the little bit I left covered well once blued Fingers crossed I bet a lot of that can be removed with extreme elbow grease Edited February 13, 2014 by mattybugeye 1 Quote Link to post
davyt63 1,845 Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 hi V a lot of that looks mostly surface, i think you will be surprised how easy its going to be to remove it. the hardest part is gong to be the breech block and the cocking arm,as of now i have not found any thing which will hold em to rotate them fast enough to hold some wet n dry/wire wool,so that will have to be good old elbow grease. if you have an old broom handle,wrap some cloth around it,stick it in the cylinder,put a 4" screw in the end,this way you can rotate it from a cordless drill,but go easy over the markings/stamps,or pick your self up a stamp kit of eBay just in case but to be honest! your best tool is to be patient Quote Link to post
valboskie 39 Posted February 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 davey that's the plan to take my time I'm in no rush. The original plan was to cold blue. It but. Now I will try and get it rust blued. I will update with some pictures tonight Atb Quote Link to post
valboskie 39 Posted February 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 here are some update pics i have spent almost 10 hours of sanding and still some to do Quote Link to post
valboskie 39 Posted February 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 a few more Quote Link to post
thursodog 353 Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Excellent mate!! A lot of hard work in there, looking forward to seeing the next stage. Atb Chris. Quote Link to post
mattybugeye 885 Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Wow mate what a transformation! !! I know how that feels lol Its going to be really nice finish with all that prep You going for hot or cold blue?? Well played!! Quote Link to post
davyt63 1,845 Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Oh yes! Now we're talking! Nice work,Well done,Looking good. Quote Link to post
valboskie 39 Posted February 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 a friend is going to try rust bluing when the weather pics up if that works ok i will give that a go. its the way the used to do top end shot guns . it also covers up any pitting marks that are left. this is one a guy mick who has suggested rust bluing did to his 77 Quote Link to post
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