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Well done Elliott, I know what you mean, the HMR makes an awful mess with a body shot which is fine if your just thinning them out but if you want them for the table its headshots all the way. It always amazes me that when you make a statement like that on here, there are umpteen people who jump on the bandwagon and try and make it yet another HMR v's 22lr debate again. :hmm:

 

If thats in reference to what I said, tbh that's not what I was doing, just observing that head shots are usually more effective and to my mind it makes you a better shot if you have to be more precise.

 

I'd personally buy a HMR over a .22 any day so don't take my post as anti-hmr.

 

If you want the real truth, I'm holding out to see what the .17 wsm finally brings to the table before deciding to go for an FAC as it promises much greater power, more silence, less recoil, little wind drift and more accuracy.

 

 

....and there is that wonderful cop out Usually

 

Everyone does what they like or need to in the field, but have no illusions that headshots are more humane, you only need to be a fraction off to take a chunk off the skull or jaw, teeth, nose whatever and the rabbit/fox/etc., runs off to die.

 

Heart/lung, front or Texas heart shot and bunnies, etc., fall down, even if you are slightly off!

 

People will tend to take head shots on bunnies if they are for the table, if it is pure, bulk, Pest Control the idea is removal in double quick fashion, there is seldom time for the niceties.

 

And why would you buy a HMR over a .22lr any day, they are different, you buy the tool to do the job, that's why the nice policeman lets me have 2 x .22lr, HMR and WMR and a few centrefires and shotguns and air rifles, and know doubt anything else if I found I needed it! :thumbs:

 

 

I'd take the HMR simply because I would rather have the greater power than the silence.

 

I've been around with my friend with his .22 Tika for years, and it's near silent with subs. It was quieter than my Gunpower Stealth 12ftlbs pre-charged air rifle which was also silenced - substancially! There's no doubt the heavier bullet has clout. There's no doubt it richocets. The HMR is the opposite. But as someone said a few posts above, there is no right or wrong answer its personal preference.

 

In your case, its tools for the job given your business and the fact that you probably shoot in a wider range of scenarios than most.

 

As for head shots, I take your point Deker although with a fragmenting bullet you'd be very unlucky to miss causing major damage to the brain of a rabbit sized prey.

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Well done Elliott, I know what you mean, the HMR makes an awful mess with a body shot which is fine if your just thinning them out but if you want them for the table its headshots all the way. It always amazes me that when you make a statement like that on here, there are umpteen people who jump on the bandwagon and try and make it yet another HMR v's 22lr debate again. :hmm:

 

If thats in reference to what I said, tbh that's not what I was doing, just observing that head shots are usually more effective and to my mind it makes you a better shot if you have to be more precise.

 

I'd personally buy a HMR over a .22 any day so don't take my post as anti-hmr.

 

If you want the real truth, I'm holding out to see what the .17 wsm finally brings to the table before deciding to go for an FAC as it promises much greater power, more silence, less recoil, little wind drift and more accuracy.

 

 

....and there is that wonderful cop out Usually

 

Everyone does what they like or need to in the field, but have no illusions that headshots are more humane, you only need to be a fraction off to take a chunk off the skull or jaw, teeth, nose whatever and the rabbit/fox/etc., runs off to die.

 

Heart/lung, front or Texas heart shot and bunnies, etc., fall down, even if you are slightly off!

 

People will tend to take head shots on bunnies if they are for the table, if it is pure, bulk, Pest Control the idea is removal in double quick fashion, there is seldom time for the niceties.

 

And why would you buy a HMR over a .22lr any day, they are different, you buy the tool to do the job, that's why the nice policeman lets me have 2 x .22lr, HMR and WMR and a few centrefires and shotguns and air rifles, and know doubt anything else if I found I needed it! :thumbs:

 

 

I'd take the HMR simply because I would rather have the greater power than the silence.

 

I've been around with my friend with his .22 Tika for years, and it's near silent with subs. It was quieter than my Gunpower Stealth 12ftlbs pre-charged air rifle which was also silenced - substancially! There's no doubt the heavier bullet has clout. There's no doubt it richocets. The HMR is the opposite. But as someone said a few posts above, there is no right or wrong answer its personal preference.

 

In your case, its tools for the job given your business and the fact that you probably shoot in a wider range of scenarios than most.

 

As for head shots, I take your point Deker although with a fragmenting bullet you'd be very unlucky to miss causing major damage to the brain of a rabbit sized prey.

 

 

Which would that be?

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I've been around with my friend with his .22 Tika for years, and it's near silent with subs. It was quieter than my Gunpower Stealth 12ftlbs pre-charged air rifle which was also silenced - substancially! There's no doubt the heavier bullet has clout. There's no doubt it richocets. The HMR is the opposite. But as someone said a few posts above, there is no right or wrong answer its personal preference.

 

In your case, its tools for the job given your business and the fact that you probably shoot in a wider range of scenarios than most.

 

As for head shots, I take your point Deker although with a fragmenting bullet you'd be very unlucky to miss causing major damage to the brain of a rabbit sized prey.

 

 

Which would that be?

 

 

Sorry should have said Sako.

 

It was one of these: http://www.sako.fi/oldmodels.php?hunterff

 

Sako Finnfire Varmint

 

Unsure of the moderator but if you blow out hard through you lips, that's literally how loud it was! My precharged air rifle was probably 5 x as loud even though it too was silenced!

 

I was once down range (that's when the richoet nearly got me), I was in a field off to the right of where my friend was when he shot a rabbit on a path that ran parallel to the field. I was about 40 yards from where he was and I never heard the gun at all just the deformed bullet in the air as it flew past have gone through the rabbit and richoched.

 

There was some brush that screened us from each other so he never knew I was there but did know I had gone off with air rifle elsewhere on the ground whilst he did some tasks in a nearby barn. He got a safety lecture from me all the same as he should never have taken a shot knowing I was potentially down range from where he was.

 

Point was on a still evening from 40 yards I never heard the gun and even at the muzzle it was whisper quiet.

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