Country Joe 1,411 Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 noticed my 11 wk pup had a swollen mouth on one side which was painful to the touch. Vet thought it could have been caused by a few things, but could have been a Wasp or Bee sting, have seen him hunting bees in the garden. given a antibiotic and painkilling injection. my question is, if it was a wasp or bee sting, causing swelling, is the only option a trip to the vet, should only really apply to pups.as most adults leave alone. Funny thing my Whippet when a pup would catch and eat Wasps, and never got stung. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 noticed my 11 wk pup had a swollen mouth on one side which was painful to the touch. Vet thought it could have been caused by a few things, but could have been a Wasp or Bee sting, have seen him hunting bees in the garden. given a antibiotic and painkilling injection. my question is, if it was a wasp or bee sting, causing swelling, is the only option a trip to the vet, should only really apply to pups.as most adults leave alone. Funny thing my Whippet when a pup would catch and eat Wasps, and never got stung. an antibiotic will do nothing for a sting mate, try a antihistamine or if the swelling very bad an anti inflammatory Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LaraCroft 863 Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 No, it isn't the only option - although very wise when it is the first time, or when it is on/in the mouth area and you are not sure if the reaction is going to stay at the "swollen area for a while, nothing more" or progress into a more serious reaction. Antihistamines like chlorphenamine are fine for dogs ( piriton os one of the brand names, but you can buy shop own brand much cheaper ) and it is dosed according to weight. Dogs need more than humans for each Kg, so don't be surprised if you are giving a dog more than an adult would need. One of mine has terrible reactions to bee stings - I carry antihistamines, steroids and an epipen for him at all times while out walking. He ends up looking like this... And this ^ was after 4 days treatment of intravenous steroids and antihistamines. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Country Joe 1,411 Posted May 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 (edited) Yeah, i suppose the Vet was being safe, as it could have been caused by anything, you know what pups are like. so if giving Antihistamines how do work out dosage, would it be weight? Edited May 27, 2013 by Country Joe Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Country Joe 1,411 Posted May 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Benadryl is a brand name for an anti-histamine (diphenhydramine). Although it is considered fairly safe for use in dogs and cats, please be aware that it does have potential adverse side effects. It may interact with other meds that your pet is taking, so do not use it without first consulting your veterinarian. You should also use extreme caution using Benadryl in dogs that have glaucoma, prostatic disease, cardiovascular disease or hyperthyroidism. Benadryl is quite effective when used in proper dosages. Stops itchingControls vomitingGood for motion sicknessCan be used as a mild tranquilizerGood for snake bitesUseful for vaccination reactionsGood for bee stings and insect bitesBe sure to use only the plain Benadryl formula. Giving benadryl with other combination of meds could be fatal, so be sure to read the box. Liquid Benadryl is too high in alcohol content to be safely used for animals. Please use capsule or pill form. Dosage every 8 hoursDogs under 30 lbs and Cats : 10 mg Dogs 30-50 lbs: 25 mgDogs over 50 lbs: 50 mg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LaraCroft 863 Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 I tend to stick to chlorphenamine (piriton), as it has a smaller likelihood of side effects in dogs, and is just as effective. I use the tablets normally, because they are easy to carry in a coat pocket, but I have the liquid as well. Dose is per kg bodyweight, and you can give 0.1 to 0.5 mg of drug, per kg - lower dose for mild itchy symptoms, higher dose for swelling caused by stings etc. My dog ( in the pic ) is 30kg, and I give him 3 of the 4mg tablets, so he gets just under the higher dose for his weight. You can repeat the dose ( whatever dose you give in the range ) every 8 hours if needed, but usually for a sting, a one off dose is fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
R.A.W 1,987 Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 No, it isn't the only option - although very wise when it is the first time, or when it is on/in the mouth area and you are not sure if the reaction is going to stay at the "swollen area for a while, nothing more" or progress into a more serious reaction. Antihistamines like chlorphenamine are fine for dogs ( piriton os one of the brand names, but you can buy shop own brand much cheaper ) and it is dosed according to weight. Dogs need more than humans for each Kg, so don't be surprised if you are giving a dog more than an adult would need. One of mine has terrible reactions to bee stings - I carry antihistamines, steroids and an epipen for him at all times while out walking. He ends up looking like this... And this ^ was after 4 days treatment of intravenous steroids and antihistamines. bloody hell that is a bad reaction. no wonder your walking around like a chemist. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chook1 184 Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Try the children's Benadryl its sugar and alcohol free - its what most vets would prescribe. Normal dose of antihistamine for a dog is 1 milligram of antihistamine per pound of body weight every 8 hours. http://www.antihistamine.com/articles/dog-antihistamine-dosage.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
clueless 11 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Slightly off topic my mates next door neighbours huge german shepherd got stung by a bee/wasp went bananas and jumped off a 40 ft wall a few years bk dog didnt make it but bee/wasps dangerous bugs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Country Joe 1,411 Posted May 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 had the pup at vet this morning swelling nearly back to normal, vet happy with him given a course of antibiotics. Discussed Wasp and bee stings, as i think he is going to be a winged hunter vet said just to give one piriton, like this it keeps it simple, vet said these types of meds are safe. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
clueless 11 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Good to here Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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