whippet 99 2,613 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 straight lined a fox would leave your gun dogs in the dust ............fact ..... pre ban ,..dont get me wrong i believe you have taken a few with these dogs ......all foxes are different some are caught with ease ........and some take some catching and make good dogs look bad........but dont make out these dogs are something there not..........im by far no expert but feel i seen enough pre ban to have an opionion........ straight lined a fox would leave your gun dogs in the dust ............fact ..... pre ban ,..dont get me wrong i believe you have taken a few with these dogs ......all foxes are different some are caught with ease ........and some take some catching and make good dogs look bad........but dont make out these dogs are something there not..........im by far no expert but feel i seen enough pre ban to have an opionion........ Your first sentence, " straight lined a fox would leave your gundogs in the dust....fact" says the rest of your post is pish and you seen none or at best a couple of pets on a walk out pre ban. A high post tally don't make you an expert mate. bull mate if they could straight out run and take foxes .............they would be used for lamping.......... not doubting your dogs dont bump,into them ..........but most foxes would out run them ..........my guess is that you have taken a few and you have got a little excited trying to make out they would take fox out in the open ground......no chance straight lined a fox would leave your gun dogs in the dust ............fact ..... pre ban ,..dont get me wrong i believe you have taken a few with these dogs ......all foxes are different some are caught with ease ........and some take some catching and make good dogs look bad........but dont make out these dogs are something there not..........im by far no expert but feel i seen enough pre ban to have an opionion........ straight lined a fox would leave your gun dogs in the dust ............fact ..... pre ban ,..dont get me wrong i believe you have taken a few with these dogs ......all foxes are different some are caught with ease ........and some take some catching and make good dogs look bad........but dont make out these dogs are something there not..........im by far no expert but feel i seen enough pre ban to have an opionion........ Your first sentence, " straight lined a fox would leave your gundogs in the dust....fact" says the rest of your post is pish and you seen none or at best a couple of pets on a walk out pre ban. A high post tally don't make you an expert mate. bull mate if they could straight out run and take foxes .............they would be used for lamping.......... not doubting your dogs dont bump,into them ..........but most foxes would out run them ..........my guess is that you have taken a few and you have got a little excited trying to make out they would take fox out in the open ground......no chance No they wouldn't, because there's dogs a damn sight better suited to the job. My dogs do bump into them, catch some, miss some like all dogs. Your guess, well guess what wrong, I've taken more than a few. A little excited?, who the feck do you think you're talking to?, some snotty kid ten miutes in the game?. Trying to make out they take them in open ground?, try and keep up, they do. Now I've owned them twenty years, talk me through your experiences with them. well bring them down here and we will see how good they are..........? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
armdog 196 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 i was under the impression that weimaraners are a general hunting dog in germany , coming up against fox , boar and even bears when hunting, so i dont doubt they could tackle a fox, i once saw a pair of dalmations hunting rabbits and when i spoke to the lady owner she said they just started doing it, they caught 2 while i was there, she never encouraged them but they worked like hounds, so yes i do believe your dogs take fox , : The Weimaraner (/ˈvaɪmərɑːnər/ vy-mə-rah-nər) is a dog that was originally bred for hunting in the early 19th century. Early Weimaraners were used by royalty for hunting large game such as boar, bear, and deer. As the popularity of large game hunting began to decline, Weimaraners were used for hunting smaller animals like fowl, rabbits, and foxes. Weimaraners are great water dogs as evidenced by their webbed toes. The Weimaraner is an all purpose gun dog. The name comes from the Grand Duke of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach, Karl August, whose court, based in the city of Weimar (now in modern day Germany), enjoyed huntin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danw 1,748 Posted April 27, 2013 Report Share Posted April 27, 2013 Got to laugh at the experts on here Dont pay them no heed daz I've seen first hand what gsp and weimaraner can do and I had a fair bit of humble pie to eat after the slagging I gave the lads as own them. Well mate i'm the same as Borderscot....ive said my opinion. I jokingly said "Have to catch it first" and i recieved a few snippy comments. Not that i worry about that i'm happy to debate stuff. Now these GSP and weimaraners that you have seen...? Theyve coursed and killed foxes have they? Cheers... I'm not taking about retrieving...my big dog does that as a wee party piece on shoot day.... Mate coursing and killing fox is illegal so no I wouldnt admit to watching that in the uk post ban. I would however suggest you find out what is required of these dogs to pass the german field trials it makes what we do over here look pathetic it certainly opened my eyes 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted April 27, 2013 Report Share Posted April 27, 2013 Got to laugh at the experts on here Dont pay them no heed daz I've seen first hand what gsp and weimaraner can do and I had a fair bit of humble pie to eat after the slagging I gave the lads as own them. Well mate i'm the same as Borderscot....ive said my opinion. I jokingly said "Have to catch it first" and i recieved a few snippy comments. Not that i worry about that i'm happy to debate stuff. Now these GSP and weimaraners that you have seen...? Theyve coursed and killed foxes have they? Cheers... I'm not taking about retrieving...my big dog does that as a wee party piece on shoot day.... Mate coursing and killing fox is illegal so no I wouldnt admit to watching that in the uk post ban. I would however suggest you find out what is required of these dogs to pass the german field trials it makes what we do over here look pathetic it certainly opened my eyes That's it then Lab looks like we're off to Germany... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted April 27, 2013 Report Share Posted April 27, 2013 Didnt mean to get you on your high horse Big Daz but since your up there then let me answer you.......Do i think your pets could catch a fox....maybe.....out of a hundred i'd say maybe 5 and thats due to old foxes mistake. Do i think they could kill a fox...yes with ease..... No ive never owned a weimaraner nor would i f*****g want too. You can call my Labs fat all you like pal....its you thats talking shite on that department though... Any chance of a pic though cause honestly ive never seen a fit one........ Thanks for the video mate but ive never doubted that they dogs could do that.... Not sure how old they were but on the last retrieve it made them out to be pretty shite if i'm honest... Would have been interetsing to see one injured and what happened apart from the one we saw with the dog just barking at it although it did state it was its first injured fox... Pity we never got the chance to meet up at DanW mate.......i'd have loved to prove too you what some Labs can do on retrieving wounded foxes if the chance had arisen..(unlikely i know). I'll have my phone set to video this season when i'm picking up if any foxes pop up.....he had 3 last season all dead and retrieved....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danw 1,748 Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 Didnt mean to get you on your high horse Big Daz but since your up there then let me answer you.......Do i think your pets could catch a fox....maybe.....out of a hundred i'd say maybe 5 and thats due to old foxes mistake. Do i think they could kill a fox...yes with ease..... No ive never owned a weimaraner nor would i f*****g want too. You can call my Labs fat all you like pal....its you thats talking shite on that department though... Any chance of a pic though cause honestly ive never seen a fit one........ Thanks for the video mate but ive never doubted that they dogs could do that.... Not sure how old they were but on the last retrieve it made them out to be pretty shite if i'm honest... Would have been interetsing to see one injured and what happened apart from the one we saw with the dog just barking at it although it did state it was its first injured fox... Pity we never got the chance to meet up at DanW mate.......i'd have loved to prove too you what some Labs can do on retrieving wounded foxes if the chance had arisen..(unlikely i know). I'll have my phone set to video this season when i'm picking up if any foxes pop up.....he had 3 last season all dead and retrieved....... Offer still stands mate if you lads want to pop down 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stewie 3,387 Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 Didnt mean to get you on your high horse Big Daz but since your up there then let me answer you.......Do i think your pets could catch a fox....maybe.....out of a hundred i'd say maybe 5 and thats due to old foxes mistake. Do i think they could kill a fox...yes with ease..... No ive never owned a weimaraner nor would i f*****g want too. You can call my Labs fat all you like pal....its you thats talking shite on that department though... Any chance of a pic though cause honestly ive never seen a fit one........ Thanks for the video mate but ive never doubted that they dogs could do that.... Not sure how old they were but on the last retrieve it made them out to be pretty shite if i'm honest... Would have been interetsing to see one injured and what happened apart from the one we saw with the dog just barking at it although it did state it was its first injured fox... Pity we never got the chance to meet up at DanW mate.......i'd have loved to prove too you what some Labs can do on retrieving wounded foxes if the chance had arisen..(unlikely i know). I'll have my phone set to video this season when i'm picking up if any foxes pop up.....he had 3 last season all dead and retrieved....... Offer still stands mate if you lads want to pop down id love to mate! what you reckon lab??? lab i dont doubt labs can kill a fox mate........ive seen it first hand........ weimaramers are handy dogs in there own right tho........this is the same pair tracking injured roe in sweden......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,217 Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 This whole thread is absolutely typical THL. Love it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 This whole thread is absolutely typical THL. Love it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,217 Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 Fox eats lamb. And then 43 arguments later. . . . . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 Fox eats lamb. And then 43 arguments later. . . . . ...the lamb's still been eaten... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,217 Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 Fox eats lamb. And then 43 arguments later. . . . . ...the lamb's still been eaten... Aye, but now we know all about weimeranas and labs. . . . so that's handy. Fox has died of old age though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danw 1,748 Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 Fox eats lamb. And then 43 arguments later. . . . . ...the lamb's still been eaten... Aye, but now we know all about weimeranas and labs. . . . so that's handy. Aye well we have google to thank for that education don't we lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigdaz 688 Posted April 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 Fox eats lamb. And then 43 arguments later. . . . . ...the lamb's still been eaten... Aye, but now we know all about weimeranas and labs. . . . so that's handy. Not quite, it's weimaraners. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 Fox eats lamb. And then 43 arguments later. . . . . ...the lamb's still been eaten... Aye, but now we know all about weimeranas and labs. . . . so that's handy. Aye well we have google to thank for that education don't we lol Fox eats lamb. And then 43 arguments later. . . . . ...the lamb's still been eaten... Aye, but now we know all about weimeranas and labs. . . . so that's handy. Not quite, it's weimaraners. Feck me you pair need a sense of humour - if this place ever needs 'anti-joke' mods you guys get my vote... I Googled Weimaraner and Jai got the spelling wrong...jesus lads you need to relax a bit... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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