Guest scramble Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 its a sorry site to see a hare shot dead. shame on you fella. Get off your high horse, what would you rather see? a hare slung in the bottom of the ditch for fear of being caught coursing ? The man is PAID to control the pests, who are you to tell a working man how to earn his crust? I dont shoot hares, i wouldn't course a hare at this time of year either(if i had a dog capable of catching one ) but plenty do and then thrown them in the ditch. now thats respect for your quarry isnt it. 2 Quote Link to post
Guest scramble Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 (edited) if its pest control why didnt they get ontop of them before they started breeding the same with rabbits. if you cull hard in the winter when the population is at its lowest level then they can be pritty much left alone all spring and summer Edited April 3, 2013 by scramble 1 Quote Link to post
PIL 7 Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 if its pest control why didnt they get ontop of them before they started breeding the same with rabbits. if you cull hard in the winter when the population is at its lowest level then they can be pritty much left alone all spring and summerI know what your saying and it makes sense but we've been over this ground before . On the paddocks I look after they want every rabbit gone due to the huge burrows and warrens . Now if I leave them to their own devices come spring and summer I would be f****d off the perm by winter . Because I've done a pretty good job up till now the owner has recommended me to one of him farmer friends so just waiting for the nod On the other perm I've got its another paddock plus a wooded copse and the house lawn . Now the rabbits on this perm evan though there are more of them they are not causing too much of a problem so they just get thinned out unless they are on the house lawn then each and every one are dealt with no matter what their size 1 Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 if its pest control why didnt they get ontop of them before they started breeding the same with rabbits. if you cull hard in the winter when the population is at its lowest level then they can be pritty much left alone all spring and summerI know what your saying and it makes sense but we've been over this ground before . On the paddocks I look after they want every rabbit gone due to the huge burrows and warrens . Now if I leave them to their own devices come spring and summer I would be f****d off the perm by winter . Because I've done a pretty good job up till now the owner has recommended me to one of him farmer friends so just waiting for the nod On the other perm I've got its another paddock plus a wooded copse and the house lawn . Now the rabbits on this perm evan though there are more of them they are not causing too much of a problem so they just get thinned out unless they are on the house lawn then each and every one are dealt with no matter what their size i carnt see any horses in the post, the only way to clear a horse paddock is to empty the warrents completely in the winter, once empty then the warrens can be dug out and the ground flattened and seeded.Rabbits dig holes, hares dont, so hares on a horse paddock will be doing what damage??? if there is that many hares on that ground, a hare drive or two at the end of the season would have not only knocked there numbers back but also it would have raised some revenue for the estate. im not anti shooting as i shoot myself but i am a countryman through and through and believe everything has a time and place, shooting hares in the spring and summer is a boundry i just will not cross. the fact hares are shot this time of year under the guise of pest control is nothing more than bad management on the part of the estate or over zelousness on the part of the shooter. sorry if this offends but its what i believe. Quote Link to post
baw 4,360 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 if its pest control why didnt they get ontop of them before they started breeding the same with rabbits. if you cull hard in the winter when the population is at its lowest level then they can be pritty much left alone all spring and summer I know what your saying and it makes sense but we've been over this ground before . On the paddocks I look after they want every rabbit gone due to the huge burrows and warrens . Now if I leave them to their own devices come spring and summer I would be f****d off the perm by winter . Because I've done a pretty good job up till now the owner has recommended me to one of him farmer friends so just waiting for the nod On the other perm I've got its another paddock plus a wooded copse and the house lawn . Now the rabbits on this perm evan though there are more of them they are not causing too much of a problem so they just get thinned out unless they are on the house lawn then each and every one are dealt with no matter what their size i carnt see any horses in the post, the only way to clear a horse paddock is to empty the warrents completely in the winter, once empty then the warrens can be dug out and the ground flattened and seeded.Rabbits dig holes, hares dont, so hares on a horse paddock will be doing what damage??? if there is that many hares on that ground, a hare drive or two at the end of the season would have not only knocked there numbers back but also it would have raised some revenue for the estate. im not anti shooting as i shoot myself but i am a countryman through and through and believe everything has a time and place, shooting hares in the spring and summer is a boundry i just will not cross. the fact hares are shot this time of year under the guise of pest control is nothing more than bad management on the part of the estate or over zelousness on the part of the shooter. sorry if this offends but its what i believe. Spot on paulus. The threads just been started to basically boast about a good shot, the rest is to justify his actions. No excuse I'm afraid no matter how chocolate coated you make it. Paulus is 100% correct. 1 Quote Link to post
baw 4,360 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 its a sorry site to see a hare shot dead. shame on you fella. Get off your high horse, what would you rather see? a hare slung in the bottom of the ditch for fear of being caught coursing ?The man is PAID to control the pests, who are you to tell a working man how to earn his crust? I dont shoot hares, i wouldn't course a hare at this time of year either(if i had a dog capable of catching one ) but plenty do and then thrown them in the ditch. now thats respect for your quarry isnt it. They're thrown away because of a stupid law. What do you want done, just pack up, take up knitten. Some of us have catched hares for decades. I'm glad your sport is legal but don't stand on that soapbox too long, nothing's safe. Quote Link to post
PIL 7 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 if its pest control why didnt they get ontop of them before they started breeding the same with rabbits. if you cull hard in the winter when the population is at its lowest level then they can be pritty much left alone all spring and summer I know what your saying and it makes sense but we've been over this ground before . On the paddocks I look after they want every rabbit gone due to the huge burrows and warrens . Now if I leave them to their own devices come spring and summer I would be f****d off the perm by winter . Because I've done a prettyu good job up till now the owner has recommended me to one of him farmer friends so just waiting for the nod On the other perm I've got its another paddock plus a wooded copse and the house lawn . Now the rabbits on this perm evan though there are more of them they are not causing too much of a problem so they just get thinned out unless they are on the house lawn then each and every one are dealt with no matter what their size i carnt see any horses in the post, the only way to clear a horse paddock is to empty the warrents completely in the winter, once empty then the warrens can be dug out and the ground flattened and seeded.Rabbits dig holes, hares dont, so hares on a horse paddock will be doing what damage??? if there is that many hares on that ground, a hare drive or two at the end of the season would have not only knocked there numbers back but also it would have raised some revenue for the estate. im not anti shooting as i shoot myself but i am a countryman through and through and believe everything has a time and place, shooting hares in the spring and summer is a boundry i just will not cross. the fact hares are shot this time of year under the guise of pest control is nothing more than bad management on the part of the estate or over zelousness on the part of the shooter. sorry if this offends but its what i believe.I'm not saying your wrong and I'm not questioning your beliefs but what I was trying to point out if your asked to do a job you get on and do it or you feck off .I've never shot a hare but if the owner said if you see one , I'd gladly shoot it for the pot .There's a similarity here to the ragheads not wanting to see ornamental pigs in shop windows , a hare is not the holy grail . Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 if its pest control why didnt they get ontop of them before they started breeding the same with rabbits. if you cull hard in the winter when the population is at its lowest level then they can be pritty much left alone all spring and summer I know what your saying and it makes sense but we've been over this ground before . On the paddocks I look after they want every rabbit gone due to the huge burrows and warrens . Now if I leave them to their own devices come spring and summer I would be f****d off the perm by winter . Because I've done a prettyu good job up till now the owner has recommended me to one of him farmer friends so just waiting for the nod On the other perm I've got its another paddock plus a wooded copse and the house lawn . Now the rabbits on this perm evan though there are more of them they are not causing too much of a problem so they just get thinned out unless they are on the house lawn then each and every one are dealt with no matter what their size i carnt see any horses in the post, the only way to clear a horse paddock is to empty the warrents completely in the winter, once empty then the warrens can be dug out and the ground flattened and seeded.Rabbits dig holes, hares dont, so hares on a horse paddock will be doing what damage??? if there is that many hares on that ground, a hare drive or two at the end of the season would have not only knocked there numbers back but also it would have raised some revenue for the estate. im not anti shooting as i shoot myself but i am a countryman through and through and believe everything has a time and place, shooting hares in the spring and summer is a boundry i just will not cross. the fact hares are shot this time of year under the guise of pest control is nothing more than bad management on the part of the estate or over zelousness on the part of the shooter. sorry if this offends but its what i believe.I'm not saying your wrong and I'm not questioning your beliefs but what I was trying to point out if your asked to do a job you get on and do it or you feck off .I've never shot a hare but if the owner said if you see one , I'd gladly shoot it for the pot .There's a similarity here to the ragheads not wanting to see ornamental pigs in shop windows , a hare is not the holy grail . the main problem here is there is pest control/estate/land management and then theres people who shoot for enjoyment under the guise of pest control.estste/land management. 35.000 acres will not be managed by 1 man taking out the odd hare in the spring. you need to work with nature and the seasons its not nice and its not pritty infact its dam hard work. this is nothing to do with dogs verses guns or even rag heads, its to do with respect for the countryside and good land management. Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 heres one for you, the year before last a mate answered the phone to very irrate farmer who said " rabbits are eating all my crops, what are you doing, your employed to keep the numbers dowm" now this bloke had spent all winter culling on this land and was very surprised at this, he jumped in his truck and went a drive down the fields, after a good look it was obvious the damage was being caused by slugs, he phoned the farmer back and asked him where he got the notion of rabbits from, the farmers answer was "the chemical rep who supplied his pesticide had visited yesterday and told him" full time pest control is land management, part time hobbies are just that. however both come with responsibilities to repect the countryside and the seasons, i will say again if theres to many pests in the spring you have not done your job good enough in the autum and winter. Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Good god dont these posts go off on a tangent, good shooting buddy. I dont shoot hares myself. For some on this site it seems that every post is something to get hot under the collar about, even the moderators join in. This site could be a proper giggle. were members aswell :laugh: Quote Link to post
The one 8,585 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Knew as soon as i saw the pict yesterday this would kick off apart from snaring them shooting's the only legal methord of control and they make good eating 2 Quote Link to post
Guest scramble Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 its a sorry site to see a hare shot dead. shame on you fella. Get off your high horse, what would you rather see? a hare slung in the bottom of the ditch for fear of being caught coursing ?The man is PAID to control the pests, who are you to tell a working man how to earn his crust? I dont shoot hares, i wouldn't course a hare at this time of year either(if i had a dog capable of catching one ) but plenty do and then thrown them in the ditch. now thats respect for your quarry isnt it. They're thrown away because of a stupid law. What do you want done, just pack up, take up knitten. Some of us have catched hares for decades. I'm glad your sport is legal but don't stand on that soapbox too long, nothing's safe. Baw i dont like the ban either, and voted against it. This is the first stepping stone to try and stop many fieldsports. i ferret, run out the webs, shoot and snare. I dont knock any man for his chosen sport be it shooting, ferreting, coursing etc. the very fact i dont run hares doesn't mean im against it, far from it. Quote Link to post
baw 4,360 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 its a sorry site to see a hare shot dead. shame on you fella. Get off your high horse, what would you rather see? a hare slung in the bottom of the ditch for fear of being caught coursing ?The man is PAID to control the pests, who are you to tell a working man how to earn his crust? I dont shoot hares, i wouldn't course a hare at this time of year either(if i had a dog capable of catching one ) but plenty do and then thrown them in the ditch. now thats respect for your quarry isnt it. They're thrown away because of a stupid law. What do you want done, just pack up, take up knitten. Some of us have catched hares for decades. I'm glad your sport is legal but don't stand on that soapbox too long, nothing's safe.Baw i dont like the ban either, and voted against it. This is the first stepping stone to try and stop many fieldsports. i ferret, run out the webs, shoot and snare. I dont knock any man for his chosen sport be it shooting, ferreting, coursing etc. the very fact i dont run hares doesn't mean im against it, far from it. Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,217 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Without meaning to be a knob . . . . if it's a 47,000 acre estate with a real hare problem. What difference is shooting one hare going to make? I see a lot of pest controllers on here, talking about doing needed pest control on a species, such as rabbits or hare, and they shoot/ferret/trap whatever, a tiny number. I just don't get it? And i'm not knocking you shooting that hare, at the end of the day, it's your land and your hares. Quote Link to post
TWOTWOTHREE 152 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Hi I'm on the fence with my opinion,the hare is a beautiful creature and I like to see nothing more than a couple of them dancing about on a sunny day in the fields, its a cracking sight,some of my permission owners feel the same,some don't,I prefer not to shoot them at all if possible,I have done in the past and I wasn't that keen on the idea to be fair,back then I didn't have as many permissions as I have now, then it was the owners request,if I wanted to keep the rights I reluctantly had to,a few more permissions later and that decision became mine in a way because there isn't that many about and I've not really been asked to since,it is at my discretion so I chose not to,saying that if they became so abundant and caused a problem i would have to if asked,at the end of the day im there to provide a service called pest control and that's what they are seen as by a lot of land owners,ive seen places with about 30 in a field in one go, they have yearly drives just for that purpose,im told its a effective way and usually done long before breeding time and get hundreds in a day,if the lad has to shoot them to keep his land fair enough I don't blame him,if he didn't and got kicked off how many of us would take 47,000 acres on the proviso we shot the hares on sight,I bet i would be tempted and most of you would too,there may be better times of year to do it,but this is his way and that's that,is it right or wrong? I'm not sure im not in his position,,do as U think best its your land and your hare as said above,by the way nice rifle and good shot,im not judging just joining in the post getting educated at the same time Atb 223 1 Quote Link to post
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