adam123 21 Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 hello all, are them lamps you can buy that look just like a hand held torch anygood or or am aye better off just getting a proper lamp? cheers Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 I use both the Cree Tacticals and a 'Propper' gun lamp. The cree's are brilliant, but I've found that the 'softer' light from the Deben lamp does not spook the bunnies as much. The light from the Cree's really is 'Blinding' but it can be softened somewhat. The smaller cree lamps also suffer in the really cold months, due to rechargable batteries not liking the cold. Tony 1 Quote Link to post
adam123 21 Posted August 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 are right, well at the minute iv just got my deben tracer lamp i use for my dog but its a right fanny on carrying it. Quote Link to post
BenjaminCadd 109 Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 I managed to get a new cree 1600 lumen handheld torch and a scope mount for it on ebay for around £20 all in and it works better than my mates deben stlye one which i think is only 600 lumen, only thing is i dont have a pressure switch but its a cheap way of getting the job done. Quote Link to post
secretagentmole 1,701 Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 Right, you do not need a 1600 lumen torch at night, you are looking for bunnies at a maximum range of 50 metres, not escaping prisoners, incoming Heinkel HE 111s or accompanying paratroopers. What you want is a decent light that lasts a long time, is focusable, dimmable and uses an easily obtained and replaced power source. Of course it does not want to be over heavy and as an added bonus will fit into a clamp on your scope. Something like this... So look here... http://www.tesco.com/direct/active-led-torch-120-lumen/208-7946.prd?skuId=208-7946&pageLevel=sku&_requestid=2548076 That baby runs for 7 hours on 1 set of 2 x AA batteries, make it even cheaper get some long life rechargables, just carry a set of Duracells for in case of emergency! Easily changed in the field. The focused beam can reach out to 70 metres! Flood good to about 30 metres at full pelt, if you go focused and bring it down to 10% of output, you can still pick the eyes up! Clamps can be picked up from any gun shop. 2 Quote Link to post
BenjaminCadd 109 Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 No i admit you dont need a 1600 or even a 1000, but i use the torch for other things, and its never on full wack you can dimm it and bring the zoom down to suit, its just a cheap way of doing things rather than buying a deben kit or something. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Zoom-Focus-Zoomable-1600-Lumens-CREE-XM-L-T6-LED-Flashlight-Torch-AAA-18650-/270954935310?pt=UK_SportsLeisure_Camping_LightsLanternsTorches&hash=item3f162c340e Quote Link to post
secretagentmole 1,701 Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 Read the description very carefully, particularly the parts I have highlighted in red... Flashlight Torch : Material:6061T Durable Aluminum Reflector with smooth reflector face Max output : 1600 lumens (MAX ,when using 18650 battery) Lifetime-above 10,000hrs Operate Voltage: 4.2 V Bulb:Super Bright CREE XM-L T6 LED Save 40% power compare with Xenon and Luxeon Bulb adjustable focus range for different usage Zoom: x1 x250 x500 x1000 x2000 3-mode adjustable Brightness,High/Mid/Low Super Bright, blinding Effect "O" ring sealed, Waterproof, can be used in rainy weather (Don't put it into the water) The ON/OFF push button switch is provided in the end cap Water resistant Body Color: Black Size(mm) :136.3mm(Length,can stretch to extent up to 157)x40mm(Head)x26.8mm(Body diameter) Battery Type:1x18650 or 3xAAA (not included any battery) Suitable for Self Safety, hunting, cycling, climbing, camping and outdoor activity Super Bright, blinding Effect Package Content : 1xCree XM-L T6 Led Ultra bright Adjustable Focus Flashlight 1x AAA battery holder .(for using AAA battery ,Not include battery) 1x Plastic Tube (for using 18650 battery ,Not include battery) We only accept the payment through Paypal. Payment should be made within 7 days after the auction ended Item will be shipped out to you in 2 business day after your payment cleared. All items are shipped via Royal Mail . Return Policy If you receive defective item(s), please kindly notify us within 7 days. We will guide you the returning instruction for replacement. The item(s) must be returned with fully packed material without being used. The returning shipping cost will be your expenses by Registered Airmail. Once we receive your returning unit, we will investigate the unit within 7 days. We will then send you a brand new replacement unit at our shipping cost. Custom Taxes A small parcel would be less likely imposed taxes or duties by customs. Import duties, taxes and charges are not included in the item price or shipping charges. These charges are the buyer's responsibility. Please check with your country's customs office to determine what these additional costs will be prior to bidding/buying. Feedback Policy We will leave a Positive Feedback after the receipt of payment We are an experienced Shen Zhen based internet seller who has been successfully selling in eBay for many years. Our mission is to provide high quality products and excellent services to our customers. We welcome to answer any questions you have. Please send us a message through eBay and we will answer you within 24 hours (weekend excluded). So why does it say it item description they are in Portsmouth? Imagine what happens if it goes wrong, would you like to pay the Tracked International Airmail Package price to return it? Compare this to simply goign to Tesco's if it goes tits! I would actually say that the listing you provided is illegal as they are based in China, not in Portsmouth! Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 My Cree's are a Red one (red led) that puts out 250-200 Lumens (lumans are a measurement of light hitting the subject and not the traditional Candle Power which is the power of the source). My White LED is 300 Lumens and easilly shows up the bunnies at 60+ yards but like I say the light is BLINDING and does tend to disturb the quarry. My 'Gun Lamp' is a Deben Tracer Atom. The Tracer Atom is much lower in output even at full output, but the reflector is dappled, this makes the light much softer and the bunnies dont get disturbed as much. I also have an infra red Cree bulb unit, which will be usefull with a home made NV project I'm about to start work on equipment Tony Quote Link to post
BenjaminCadd 109 Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 Good point, from china, so probably better to pick a different seller, as it is possible to get stung with import tax or returning to china if it is faulty, not the best example! But thats the one i have. Quote Link to post
robwelsh 354 Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 1600 lumen is good if you intend on using filters. A 300lumen torch with red filter will probably chuck out 50 lumen if your lucky. I have a tri star 1200lumen. With dim switch, and filters and it works a treat. This is my third one though, as the other two wiring system was all to fook. Quote Link to post
secretagentmole 1,701 Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 Filters on the Tesco torch, use Quality Street wrappers and rubber bands, cheap and you get the missus some choccies, bonus points all round... 2 Quote Link to post
robwelsh 354 Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 Well my mate done it to his p7 with sweet wrappers and still put the light output down quite abit, I think that's 250lumen Quote Link to post
ghillies 209 Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 one tip you will need to know, click..click ..click...click..ahh went past it..click fashing mode...click flashing stobe with boobs on mode click..1 lumininum click 3 lumiminum click..20 lums later click 20 lumiminum click..any bodt died of a stroke waiting yet? click half mode with santa jimgles, click the laser mode click the blue neon fish tank special fangy eyes wazerk mode click.. if it has click modes, dont bother..!! a twist bezel head mode so once its on that setting its stays there. a strobe is about as alarming as you can get lol..after 2 hours silently getting there you start to flash sos before it'll switch off? lol. if you need a big lamp and already have a bulb one, ehhhh use it, but, i will say, sheeesh cant beet a cree for size and power. fits in your shirt pocket and lights 100-500 yards depending on how strong it is? tail cap presure switch's can be bought or very easily made. 1 Quote Link to post
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