Goodlittlebitch 2 Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 Has anyone used one/have one and what do they think? I've read a few articles and watched a few videos on YouTube and it seems quite a nice pistol. Just the price makes me abit skeptical about it and wondering what any of you think? Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 The Beeman 2004E is an Identical Copy of the Weirarch HW40 PCA The difference is the 2004E is made in China, under License from Beeman (USA) AND HW (Germany) As far as construction goes, the trigger on the 2004E is Chrome plated (Or similar). The ONLY problem that I know of; is that the air intake hole seems to be drilled and not (de-burred) cleaned up afterwards, meaning that there may be a Burr left on the inside. This Burr is claimed to be responsible for the failure of an o-ring seal. It is however easy to put a touch of emery cloth and make the burr vanish! Bit like a polish on a top of the range action Tony Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 As for accuracy....... I have the HW40-PCA and it's superb, the members of the UBC who own the Beeman Version also concure What do you have in mind for such a fine pistol? Bearing in mind it puts out less than 3ft/lbs at the muzzle? I have used it to good effect for putting down Rats at close range in confind spaces as well as the very occasional fluff shot on quarry such as rabbit and Woody. I have also used it to take down woodies and collard doves with head shots out to 15 yards and knockingover 40mm killzone metal targets at 20 yards. Tony 1 Quote Link to post
andyfr1968 772 Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 I bought one of these a little while back for me and my boys and I'm more than very pleased with it. I wasn't expecting much for the price though but it really is a little cracker. As accurate as anyone could reasonably want or need, nice predictable trigger and a fair bit more poke than I expected, between 2.9 and 3.2 ft-lbs over my chrono depending on pellet so plenty enough for plinking. Deffo a big thumbs up from me!! 1 Quote Link to post
Goodlittlebitch 2 Posted August 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 Just Going to use it for close range grey squirrells and rats at the bottom of my yard and on a few small bits of permission around the back of me. Will it be ok for that? Quote Link to post
Skot Ruthless Teale 1,701 Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 Just Going to use it for close range grey squirrells and rats at the bottom of my yard and on a few small bits of permission around the back of me. Will it be ok for that? your probably better off with a rifle. unless its VERY VERY close range and you practice a hell of a lot and get very consistent and accurate at shooting it Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 Just Going to use it for close range grey squirrells and rats at the bottom of my yard and on a few small bits of permission around the back of me. Will it be ok for that? No, not for the Squirrels The rats are fairly 'soft quarry' and I'd say 10 to 15 yards max A shot in the front third of a rat and it's dead withing seconds For the Squirrels If I were to use a pistol (at 20 yards max) it would either be an Sherridan or Benjamin Co2 in .22 or better still if you put in the practise and learn to shoot it, a HW45 (Springer at 5.5+ ft/lbs) but you really need to learn to shoot these and put in thousands of rounds of pellets to be able to use them efficiantly on a relatively "hard quarry". Squirrels are hard little feckers and you need to either pop its heart (and preferably lungs as well) or put the pellet through the brain. A squirrels brain is much smaller than a Rabbits so precision is a must. Arcoiling pistol such as the 45HW is much harder to shoot consistantly. A much cheaper option for Squizzers, Rats, Rabbits and General plinking out to 30 yards would be a rifle Either a QB (less/no recoil) or if you can afford one, a decent springer rifle. Tony 1 Quote Link to post
Goodlittlebitch 2 Posted August 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 I'd rather a pistol but a rifle isn't out of the window, I have a budget of around £200 I could maybe push 250 maximum. What do you think my best option is then? Quote Link to post
secretagentmole 1,701 Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 How about an xs78 or 79 if you want to stick on the low cost CO2 route? Once again Chinese, but the 79 can be turned into a PCP by buying a Guerilla air bottle which is regulated to the same pressure as CO2, that way you have a PCP brand new for under £200.... Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 In all honesty, I would prefer you go down the rifle route for hunting Reason being is they are much more stable in the hand and easier to learn to shoot and be accurate with As well as having the extra kinetic energy to transfer into the quarry. For 200 you will get a decent second hand rifle. Or even a new Edgar Brothers Model 55 or 60 with scope. What Mike says about the conversion from Co2 to PCP with the bottle is a good idea as well, one I shall be looking into know I know about it. Cheers Mike You got a link? Tony Quote Link to post
secretagentmole 1,701 Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 Tony are you a member of the Airgun Forum? Bloke on there called Jetski, he specialises in improving these little rifles. Reckons the on the 79 straight swap. One like this.... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Guerrilla-Air-Tank-with-Myth-Regulator-13ci-3000psi-EU-/271032226201?pt=UK_Sporting_Goods_Paintballing&hash=item3f1ac79199 1 Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 (edited) Cheers Mike, Appreciate that Tony Edited August 8, 2012 by Phantom Quote Link to post
secretagentmole 1,701 Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 No problems, I am looking at getting a 79 if one ever turns up in the auction close to me, turn it into a PCP and have a tinker.... Quote Link to post
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