talt 878 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 just been talking to a mate who just got back from the vets after a check up on his ten month old dogue de bordeaux.he feeds him a barf diet but the vet told him that he was allergic to it because he has a couple of small hot spots.he has recomended a food he supplies that will cost about £200 a month. anyone else think hes taking the piss? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ste68blue 8 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Should maybe try another vet and get a second opinion.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 just been talking to a mate who just got back from the vets after a check up on his ten month old dogue de bordeaux.he feeds him a barf diet but the vet told him that he was allergic to it because he has a couple of small hot spots.he has recomended a food he supplies that will cost about £200 a month. anyone else think hes taking the piss? and what is this wonder food?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 6,174 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Yes, I think he's definitely taking the piss. Some dogs are prone to hot spots no matter what you feed them: dogs with very dense, greasy coats. Dogs with more folds in their skin than they should have by nature. Hot spots are usually where the skin has become hot and moist and bacteria breed on/in the skin and cause a localised infection. All you need to do is shave the fur right off round and on the spot. Wash with Hibiscrub and treat with Sudacrem: that has always worked for me. As for diet: make sure the dog gets plenty of spinach, steamed nettles, fresh raw minced veg in its diet; this is very good for helping to keep the skin in good condition and the blood circulation as well. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
talt 878 Posted June 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 i will pop over and see him later today,but when i saw the dog last week he looked fine and his coat was nice and glossy for a young dog.The same vet wanted to charge him £408 to have his crypytochid staffy neutered when he found out he had pet insurance.The staffy is on the barf as well and he looks fantastic. he is the same age as the other dog.This allergy has not been confirmed with skin tests or the like, just the vets opinion.Personally i agree with skycat and perhaps if it didnt seem to improve i would cut beef out of his diet to see if that made a difference, as i read some where( terrierman.com i seem to recall) that it was one of the common allergies that dogs suffer with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 If it is an allergic reaction then it will likely be to a particular source and that is as likely to be environmental as dietary. These things are extremely difficult and the urban myths abound, such as gluten etc being always to blame, rather than the more common dust mites or pollen being seen as causative. If they decide to use a complete as a base for a while on a trial basis, then good old skinners duck and rice is a better price. If the complete doesn’t alleviate the symptoms it’s unlikely diet. I’d start, along with the meat, giving a good amount of cooked veg plus a carb source and cod liver oil daily, Hoover a lot if its kept indoor and see how it goes. If not improving use the duck and rice then after say a fortnight if settling add in one type of meat for a week suck as chicken and monitor, if all ok start the next type say lamb, need to be very strict on the diet no table scraps etc in the exclusion stage!!!! The nappy rash cream wouldn’t hurt as already suggested. Ps They’ll be trying to sell him evening primrose oil next! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
talt 878 Posted June 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 just got back from my mates, the dog doesnt look that bad. He looks like hes shedding his coat, and the hot spots dont look too bad, really. My mate, quite sensibly, i think, has decided not to buy the vets food but instead is putting him on vitalin sensitive puppy food, which he was on when he first got him at eight weeks. He is going to keep him on this for six weeks to see if he improves, and then start adding different meats to see if it is an allergy. I still think the vet is a greedy robbing b*****d though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
drayboy 0 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 I joined this site just to reply to this post. The question to ask the vet is "Where and who provided the canine nutrition part of your veterinary training?" The answer will be, one of the major dog food manufactureres. Let's get down to basics. Biologically dogs are wolves. Yes, thousands of years of careful selective breeding has changed appearnce and to some extent their minds. The dog in your living room can breed with a wild wolf and produce viable offspring. This in itself should be enough indication that the "dog" and the "wolf" are the same species. With this in mind, when was the last time there were reports of wolves doing a raid on cornfields, or attacking a vegetable patch. Dogs/wolves are primarily carnivours, that is they eat meat. Tell your mate to stick with the BARF diet, it'll do far less harm than feeding him the processed industrial waste that is commercially sold as a "nutritious" and "well balanced" food for your dog. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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