billy whizz 141 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 id still like someone to show me what steroid can make you run faster? stronger and bigger yes faster im still yet to see this? why not bring out a drug tested fed and a natural one like they do in body building. UFC all jacked up on gear NFL all jaked,baseball players all pumped its all over. i wouldnt want me kids to take any drugs but rather them take gear than go out sniffing m.cat and drinking every weekend. thats just me dont hang me lads lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 28,863 Posted April 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 id still like someone to show me what steroid can make you run faster? stronger and bigger yes faster im still yet to see this? why not bring out a drug tested fed and a natural one like they do in body building. UFC all jacked up on gear NFL all jaked,baseball players all pumped its all over. i wouldnt want me kids to take any drugs but rather them take gear than go out sniffing m.cat and drinking every weekend. thats just me dont hang me lads lol :laugh: love the irony of your post,,, and your username :laugh: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
billy whizz 141 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 lol what you saying lad?? i dont do whizz its a long story:)lol haha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
martin 332 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 whats evryones thoughts on this topic??? what anoys me is the court overturning our olympic comitys ruling,,, we had rules in place and you abide by them.... i dont actualy mind hes back in ,, the fact he had gear,,,or i should say got cought..... how many more dont get cought... its just this court of arbitration that overturns the rules I think he should be 'Black Balled' lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,558 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 PERFOMANCE ENHANSING DRUGS HAVE NO PLACE IN AMATURE SPORT try telling kids the differance from them and any other drug its a battle now this ruling just made it worse , two year ban joke HE IS 31 YEARS OF AGE WITH NO CHANCE OF A MEDAL HIS REASONS ARE UNJUST AND A POINTLESS VICTORY THAT HAUNT AMATURE SPORT So you dont want performance enhancement then.....................................ok,well take vitamin tabs away,protein shakes........make footballers all where the same shitty 1960,s boots......make swimmers stop shaving their bodies.....cyclists stop wearing them aero dynamic helmets......weightlifters stop wearing joint supports................and on and on and on..........................everything is a performance enhancer.....oh what because its the terrible D word its worse. If i prepare better for my sport than you do i have an advantage..............if we prepare the same i have no advantage......you do what you want i,ll do what i want we,re both adult human beings. Sport is sport.....it should never need to be some kind of moral standpoint to how people should live their lives,thats what parents are for. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,558 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 id still like someone to show me what steroid can make you run faster? stronger and bigger yes faster im still yet to see this? Put simply the stronger the muscle the better it works to its maximum efficiency.......ie,explosive power = speed and heightened reflexes. Ben Johnson got caught.....Carl Lewis didnt..................physically there was little difference. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 PERFOMANCE ENHANSING DRUGS HAVE NO PLACE IN AMATURE SPORT try telling kids the differance from them and any other drug its a battle now this ruling just made it worse , two year ban joke HE IS 31 YEARS OF AGE WITH NO CHANCE OF A MEDAL HIS REASONS ARE UNJUST AND A POINTLESS VICTORY THAT HAUNT AMATURE SPORT So you dont want performance enhancement then.....................................ok,well take vitamin tabs away,protein shakes........make footballers all where the same shitty 1960,s boots......make swimmers stop shaving their bodies.....cyclists stop wearing them aero dynamic helmets......weightlifters stop wearing joint supports................and on and on and on..........................everything is a performance enhancer.....oh what because its the terrible D word its worse. If i prepare better for my sport than you do i have an advantage..............if we prepare the same i have no advantage......you do what you want i,ll do what i want we,re both adult human beings. Sport is sport.....it should never need to be some kind of moral standpoint to how people should live their lives,thats what parents are for. dont compare eqipment to drugs man v man on equal terms , preperation is all to me and my fellow amature coaches drugs and the promotion of drugs to enhance the performance of the human body no thanks like you say were adults am anti drugs you seem to be pro , do you think bolt is on any and if so do you think he is hiding behind a clever masking system , , allso the risk factor does it exsist or are they safe , musle , heart, lungs, kidney, liver , yes you do what you want with your own body , but would you advise a kid to take drugs , inject or oral , to enhance his peformance IF there was RISK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fredthefrog 169 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 ya know what they say, if ya cant beat em join em...... .... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rake aboot 4,936 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Nope ! What kind of sport is it, when cyclists have to get up regularly through the night to go on a static bike, to keep the blood flowing around their system, because it`s that thick with EPO that the heart can`t do it at a slow rate !?? Sport !! nope. money !,, Ban them from all international events. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 SO WHEN DO THE PRO DRUGS BOYS ADVISE US TO START PUMPING ARE KIDS FULL OF DRUGS 11. 12. 13. 14. 15 . 16 , OR WAIT ABIT TO SEE IF ITS WORTH THE OUTLAY I wont argue with you GTO i reckon you know a hell of a lot more than me on the subject but there certainly needs to be something done about an athlete who takes for example a 'nasal spray' and ends up being accused of drug taking. I know of no drug that you take that makes you run 5 secs faster or whatever only drugs that enhance the hard work you put in. I dont get your point on eductaing kids on drugs....i'm sure the budding athletes at a young age could tell the difference between some performance enhancing drugs and an Ecstacy tablet... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
billy whizz 141 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 id still like someone to show me what steroid can make you run faster? stronger and bigger yes faster im still yet to see this? Put simply the stronger the muscle the better it works to its maximum efficiency.......ie,explosive power = speed and heightened reflexes. Ben Johnson got caught.....Carl Lewis didnt..................physically there was little difference. big muscles still dont make you faster like saying if your arms are 21inch you can hit harder than a guy with 17inch biceps ive used many compounds and been into steroids for over 10years am i ashamed no i dont compete i do it for myself i dont advise people to use its an individual thing. nothing is safe but there are ways to do it that are safer. for the guy who mentioned EPO that is one vial drug that can lead to instant death. we all do drugs everyday beer is a drug how many of lads lads smoke on here? i can tell you now that over half the super league players are on HGH. All they have to do is stop spending money on silly displays in the events and they could afford to test every person.its all down to money. always sprinters that get picked up has there ever been anyvpower lifters get done for gear?what about the guys on the rings? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOPPER 1,809 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 its all a five minute wonder though i know guys who were on the gear they used to be big fit looking lumps these days there sad scrivelled pathetic sods all with major heart problems and as about as much use as a used tampon , drugs should have no place in sport and if you get caught then you should be banned for life not just competeing but anything to do with it like training etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 28,863 Posted May 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 id still like someone to show me what steroid can make you run faster? stronger and bigger yes faster im still yet to see this? Put simply the stronger the muscle the better it works to its maximum efficiency.......ie,explosive power = speed and heightened reflexes. Ben Johnson got caught.....Carl Lewis didnt..................physically there was little difference. not shure i know what you mean there gnash,,,,you think lewis was using??? as for physicly they were like chalk and cheese,,,, lewis ran beautifully,, very relaxed , flowing type of moovment,,, whereas johnson was all power.................or do you mean physicaly almost the same speed or talent Quote Link to post Share on other sites
billy whizz 141 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 its all a five minute wonder though i know guys who were on the gear they used to be big fit looking lumps these days there sad scrivelled pathetic sods all with major heart problems and as about as much use as a used tampon , drugs should have no place in sport and if you get caught then you should be banned for life not just competeing but anything to do with it like training etc you are spot on most guys rely too much on drugs and there whole physiques are held up with big androgens and water when they come off shrink.Like anything people get greedy and stay on too long 2 short cycles a year is enough for people.People go from use to abuse,and think more is better this isnt the case ive seen young lads taking several grams of test a week and still look like shit.its all down to diet and correct PCT that counts if these two are not in order its not much use this is why you see guys blow up one week,8 week later there back to starting weight. i agree with people that they shouldnt use any meds when competing,on the other hand i see no problem with them using outside comps for recovery and injury purposes/prevention,which anabolics were design to do in the 1st place. If the guy is clean now that great let him do it i say,you can compete in natty comps in bodybuilding if you havent taken steroids in a six month period.after this time you are classed as a natty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,558 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 (edited) dont compare eqipment to drugs man v man on equal terms , preperation is all to me and my fellow amature coaches drugs and the promotion of drugs to enhance the performance of the human body no thanks like you say were adults am anti drugs you seem to be pro , do you think bolt is on any and if so do you think he is hiding behind a clever masking system , , allso the risk factor does it exsist or are they safe , musle , heart, lungs, kidney, liver , yes you do what you want with your own body , but would you advise a kid to take drugs , inject or oral , to enhance his peformance IF there was RISK What benefit could a kid whos body has not even stopped growing possibly get from steroids ?.....no of course you wouldnt advise kids to take drugs.......if you think the worlds top athletes are clean as a whistle and have the same perfectly natural body they was born with you are either very naive or living in a dream world. For somebody who apparently spends time in gyms you dont seem to know a lot about whats going on in the world of sport.....i accept its not so prevalent in amature sport.....but this is a ruthless world we live in,if one top athlete knows his rival has an advantage you seriously think he,s not going to try to take that same advantage.....hence,its only an advantage if the opponent isnt doing the same. And i certainly wouldnt call todays scientific sports nutrition and the massive fields of research that are constantly going on,equipment....scientific sports nutrition isnt " equipment ".......even without drugs todays athletes are far superior to yesterdays....what you think they are still eating red meat and drinking raw eggs Rocky Balboa style !!...times change mate,we have to move with the times or get left behind. Edited May 1, 2012 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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