predatorman 54 Posted March 31, 2012 Report Share Posted March 31, 2012 I find it f'ckin bizarre that a couple of bits of info/footage have been put up that support out case for hunting foxes, and two or three so called hunters are disputing it and playing down the pest that foxes are!!!!!.....which side are you on for f'cks sake?????????? Good pics paulus and stevo! rob, you know which side i'm on! foxes need controling on shootland and non shootland because of the damage they can do to pheasants, domestic fowl etc i fully accept that! i asked for footage of fox taking lambs which no one has given. i could find a pic of an airplane in the sky with a skyscraper, it would'nt make it proof of another 9-11 would it? i think you need to calm down and keep on topic pal lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
predatorman 54 Posted March 31, 2012 Report Share Posted March 31, 2012 lurcher330, the pic hardly shows the fox attacking or holding a live lamb. paulus, the sheep looked restrained somehow, maybe caught up in a fence? the fox was poking around it for sure, hardly went in for the kill lol. good research lads but i'm not convinced yet. in this day and age of nightvision etc surely someone would record something of note rather than the mountains of footage of foxes scavenging carcasses on hill farms? we'l just have to keep our fingers crossed Plus the pic is photoshopped, its not real. no it's not here is a link to morehttp://www.flickr.co...t42/3513913968/ it was lambing if you called that restrained then yes it couldn`t go in for the kill as the ewe was protecting her lamb as it was being born or it wanted to nip in for the afterbirth? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted March 31, 2012 Report Share Posted March 31, 2012 lurcher330, the pic hardly shows the fox attacking or holding a live lamb. paulus, the sheep looked restrained somehow, maybe caught up in a fence? the fox was poking around it for sure, hardly went in for the kill lol. good research lads but i'm not convinced yet. in this day and age of nightvision etc surely someone would record something of note rather than the mountains of footage of foxes scavenging carcasses on hill farms? we'l just have to keep our fingers crossed Plus the pic is photoshopped, its not real. no it's not here is a link to morehttp://www.flickr.co...t42/3513913968/ it was lambing if you called that restrained then yes it couldn`t go in for the kill as the ewe was protecting her lamb as it was being born or it wanted to nip in for the afterbirth? You might have had a pop at Rob for bringing up your reason for wanting proof but here you are again doubting things and seeing it from "the other side".......strange... Facts are foxes eat lambs.......infact foxes will eat anything that presents itself easy prey and a new born lamb struggling and calling for its mother would be a feast.......no????? 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cookiemonsterandmerlin Posted March 31, 2012 Report Share Posted March 31, 2012 We can talk all day about the rights and wrongs of this topic the truth is there is bollocks spoken on both sides with regards to fox attacks on sheep/lambs. And the truth is most hunters of foxes be it rifle or any other methods actually has very little dealing the countrylife and soley seeks permission for the pleasure of hunting and actually dont give damm about the reason behind controlling fox numbers but use it as means to justfiy hunting them. And we should not be ashamed of saying we get pleasure out hunting any animal and we could do without pictures youtube footage of some distant sheep lambing at night with charlie sniffing about. If you have spent 30 years milking cows lambing and generally moving around the countryside you would know that them sort of actions happen nearly ever night . ATB Cookie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
predatorman 54 Posted March 31, 2012 Report Share Posted March 31, 2012 lurcher330, the pic hardly shows the fox attacking or holding a live lamb. paulus, the sheep looked restrained somehow, maybe caught up in a fence? the fox was poking around it for sure, hardly went in for the kill lol. good research lads but i'm not convinced yet. in this day and age of nightvision etc surely someone would record something of note rather than the mountains of footage of foxes scavenging carcasses on hill farms? we'l just have to keep our fingers crossed Plus the pic is photoshopped, its not real. no it's not here is a link to morehttp://www.flickr.co...t42/3513913968/ it was lambing if you called that restrained then yes it couldn`t go in for the kill as the ewe was protecting her lamb as it was being born or it wanted to nip in for the afterbirth? You might have had a pop at Rob for bringing up your reason for wanting proof but here you are again doubting things and seeing it from "the other side".......strange... Facts are foxes eat lambs.......infact foxes will eat anything that presents itself easy prey and a new born lamb struggling and calling for its mother would be a feast.......no????? lab, things need looking at from all angles and all i wanted to see was some footage so i could think "yes its true because i've seen it". what is strange about that? it was a perfectly good debate until someone cried "possible anti!" read back on an earlier post of mine. i dont have a need to shoot foxes but i really enjoy digging them with terriers and a couple of friends have nights out with me to "retrieve" them with lurchers. i used to go hunting with a footpack and it was a great day out with plenty of digging. yes foxes are vermin and they do eat lambs and probably any carrion they can find. its possible they snatch newborn lambs, i wanted to see it, i still have'nt. we can create as many scenario's as we want but until i've seen it, it remains inconclusive, its my opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cookiemonsterandmerlin Posted March 31, 2012 Report Share Posted March 31, 2012 lurcher330, the pic hardly shows the fox attacking or holding a live lamb. paulus, the sheep looked restrained somehow, maybe caught up in a fence? the fox was poking around it for sure, hardly went in for the kill lol. good research lads but i'm not convinced yet. in this day and age of nightvision etc surely someone would record something of note rather than the mountains of footage of foxes scavenging carcasses on hill farms? we'l just have to keep our fingers crossed Plus the pic is photoshopped, its not real. no it's not here is a link to morehttp://www.flickr.co...t42/3513913968/ it was lambing if you called that restrained then yes it couldn`t go in for the kill as the ewe was protecting her lamb as it was being born or it wanted to nip in for the afterbirth? You might have had a pop at Rob for bringing up your reason for wanting proof but here you are again doubting things and seeing it from "the other side".......strange... Facts are foxes eat lambs.......infact foxes will eat anything that presents itself easy prey and a new born lamb struggling and calling for its mother would be a feast.......no????? lab, things need looking at from all angles and all i wanted to see was some footage so i could think "yes its true because i've seen it". what is strange about that? it was a perfectly good debate until someone cried "possible anti!" read back on an earlier post of mine. i dont have a need to shoot foxes but i really enjoy digging them with terriers and a couple of friends have nights out with me to "retrieve" them with lurchers. i used to go hunting with a footpack and it was a great day out with plenty of digging. yes foxes are vermin and they do eat lambs and probably any carrion they can find. its possible they snatch newborn lambs, i wanted to see it, i still have'nt. we can create as many scenario's as we want but until i've seen it, it remains inconclusive, its my opinion. To many members searching the net for others footage and have seen little field action in vermin control or farming to actually know the real deal. ATB Cookie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcher330 2,301 Posted March 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2012 As Neil has already said only a fool would think foxes don't take lambs 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sussexpoacher 45 Posted March 31, 2012 Report Share Posted March 31, 2012 Candy Apple your Photos are all over facebook on anti pages, perhaps you should ask them nicely to remove them! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
predatorman 54 Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 well i'm sorry i dont conform to your perception of guaranteed hunter lol, but then again, i'm not on here to get my post count up or reinforce a clique i'm in lol. we'l agree to disagree. happy hunting to all offended. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 well i'm sorry i dont conform to your perception of guaranteed hunter lol, but then again, i'm not on here to get my post count up or reinforce a clique i'm in lol. we'l agree to disagree. happy hunting to all offended. Never offended me, take alot more than that.... I think the problem we have here is mate that trying to defend something or in your case not 100% believing that a lamb will be taken by a fox on a hunting forum is going to raisesome eyebrows and some finger pointing. I dont know you and you dont know me so we have to come to a conclusion by what we write on here. To be fair i have'nt ever 'seen' personnally a fox/badger decimate a pen full of birds but i have picked up the headless remains the next day thouroghly pissed off...... 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 I find it f'ckin bizarre that a couple of bits of info/footage have been put up that support out case for hunting foxes, and two or three so called hunters are disputing it and playing down the pest that foxes are!!!!!.....which side are you on for f'cks sake?????????? Good pics paulus and stevo! rob, you know which side i'm on! foxes need controling on shootland and non shootland because of the damage they can do to pheasants, domestic fowl etc i fully accept that! i asked for footage of fox taking lambs which no one has given. i could find a pic of an airplane in the sky with a skyscraper, it would'nt make it proof of another 9-11 would it? i think you need to calm down and keep on topic pal lol do I??? and how do I KNOW that exactly? to be honest on the strength of what you've put on this thread alone I wouldn't trust you as far as I could throw you! and I'm perfectly calm thanks, and it was kept on topic....someone posted up evidence of fox attacking sheep, and you on your little mission to deny what happens in nature, what's happening in the photographs, trying to spin the truth etc (remind you of any groups??) has argued against it, and I've said what I think....all on topic. :bye: 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
billybaltic 308 Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 I live in the middle of the city, now close by on a local council estate there has been two foxes regulary seen for the last two year,s, now just before everyone on there knew about them, six smallish cat,s went missing, most people thought it was the local scallie,s with there pitbull,s, but when that has happened in the past, the dead cat was alway,s found, dead somewhere, these cat,s are never seen again.Since everyone has seen the foxes about, mostly scaveging around bin,s and ripping bin bag,s open, people are leaving food out for them, a lot of food{no cat,s going missing no more} They used to run like hell soon as they seen anyone, not anymore, they don,t come to close, but they have really changed how they were acting toward,s people.I am expecting a few more to turn up soon, and expect someone to kill them, but people on the estate will report them, would you be prosecuted if your dog was off it,s lead and killed one of these foxes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
predatorman 54 Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 well i'm sorry i dont conform to your perception of guaranteed hunter lol, but then again, i'm not on here to get my post count up or reinforce a clique i'm in lol. we'l agree to disagree. happy hunting to all offended. Never offended me, take alot more than that.... I think the problem we have here is mate that trying to defend something or in your case not 100% believing that a lamb will be taken by a fox on a hunting forum is going to raisesome eyebrows and some finger pointing. I dont know you and you dont know me so we have to come to a conclusion by what we write on here. To be fair i have'nt ever 'seen' personnally a fox/badger decimate a pen full of birds but i have picked up the headless remains the next day thouroghly pissed off...... no problem lab, rob's manned up and defending himself now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 well i'm sorry i dont conform to your perception of guaranteed hunter lol, but then again, i'm not on here to get my post count up or reinforce a clique i'm in lol. we'l agree to disagree. happy hunting to all offended. Never offended me, take alot more than that.... I think the problem we have here is mate that trying to defend something or in your case not 100% believing that a lamb will be taken by a fox on a hunting forum is going to raisesome eyebrows and some finger pointing. I dont know you and you dont know me so we have to come to a conclusion by what we write on here. To be fair i have'nt ever 'seen' personnally a fox/badger decimate a pen full of birds but i have picked up the headless remains the next day thouroghly pissed off...... no problem lab, rob's manned up and defending himself now ha ha, I've hardly been on here all weekend so only just noticed your silly inputs, hence the delay in me responding Quote Link to post Share on other sites
predatorman 54 Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 I find it f'ckin bizarre that a couple of bits of info/footage have been put up that support out case for hunting foxes, and two or three so called hunters are disputing it and playing down the pest that foxes are!!!!!.....which side are you on for f'cks sake?????????? Good pics paulus and stevo! rob, you know which side i'm on! foxes need controling on shootland and non shootland because of the damage they can do to pheasants, domestic fowl etc i fully accept that! i asked for footage of fox taking lambs which no one has given. i could find a pic of an airplane in the sky with a skyscraper, it would'nt make it proof of another 9-11 would it? i think you need to calm down and keep on topic pal lol do I??? and how do I KNOW that exactly? to be honest on the strength of what you've put on this thread alone I wouldn't trust you as far as I could throw you! and I'm perfectly calm thanks, and it was kept on topic....someone posted up evidence of fox attacking sheep, and you on your little mission to deny what happens in nature, what's happening in the photographs, trying to spin the truth etc (remind you of any groups??) has argued against it, and I've said what I think....all on topic. :bye: dont go on the strength of this thread alone, look at other threads i've commented on and the advice i've offered, you'll see which side of the fence i'm on. its a bad accusation being labelled an anti, much the same if i called you a dog starver?! lambs taken by foxes in my neck of the woods are unheard of but sheep farming isnt intensive. thats why i wanted to see it, a picture means nothing, a grainy film of a fox running round a ewe did nothing for me either. get over it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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