mangy1983 51 Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 After having managed to get within 150 yards today of a flock of over 40 geese l settled down take a shot at one that l had selected only to notice the bullet splash into a largish puddle behind the goose l was aiming at. My zero has been fine the last few times l took the gun out but having noticed l was shooting directly into the wind I'm thinking its quiet possible that the wind could cause the bullet to rise. If l remember my Physics 101 correctly is it not possible that the wind could cause the bullet to rise or fall as the bullet is speeding into it. What do you guys reckon? cheers Callum Quote Link to post
Hawkeye. 26 Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 how did you manage to get Geese put on your firearms licence? Quote Link to post
Lab 10,979 Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Squeeze not pull mate.................. Quote Link to post
worthy130 21 Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) how did you manage to get Geese put on your firearms licence? +1............... Edited January 9, 2012 by worthy130 Quote Link to post
mangy1983 51 Posted January 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 l phoned the chief firearms officer and explained to him what l was gonna shoot and if it was worth putting in an application for a centre fire rifle as l did not want to apply for it if l was not going to get it. I was originally applying for just .22 rim fire as l had inherited a gun and explained l wanted a .223 and he tried to talk me down to a .17 hmr but l explained to him that l had seen geese shot with one on youtube and that l did not feel that this was a powerful enough calibre and that the bullets were too small as the geese were still flapping away in this video (which has since been removed). He then agreed with me on .223 and that he had no problem with one being added to my license. cheers Callum Quote Link to post
SNAP SHOT 194 Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 There, is zero adjustment required fo a straight into the wind shot, but take a look at the landscape around you, sometimes the wind came come from differing multiple or variable directions, more than likely a fluffed shot i'm sorry to say, but hey it happens from time to time. Snap. Quote Link to post
TWOTWOTHREE 152 Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) Hi Not sure if the wind would affect it head on,but as said it could have been multiple direction wind down range,excuse the ignorance but why would u have to have geese put on a fac,I was of the understanding a certain type were vermin Atb 223 Edited January 9, 2012 by TWOTWOTHREE 1 Quote Link to post
worthy130 21 Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Geese whether vermin or not will ALWAYS come under Wildfowl and must always be treated as wildfowl ATB Quote Link to post
TWOTWOTHREE 152 Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Cheers worthy Live And learn hey, Atb Quote Link to post
mangy1983 51 Posted January 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Hi Not sure if the wind would affect it head on,but as said it could have been multiple direction wind down range,excuse the ignorance but why would u have to have geese put on a fac,I was of the understanding a certain type were vermin Atb 223 The Greylag are the geese l shoot as they stopped migrating and made the Hebrides their home for the last 10 - 15 years. They are a well known problem as my cousin found out 5 or so years back when he lost 60% of his crop to them. I shoot them between 1st Sept - Jan 31st as they are a menace to agricultural and crop land due to them pulling the roots as well as the grass as well as the fact excrement is highly acidic which can cause problems for the regrowth of grass on land that they have been on. At the last count the population was 16,000 but as the meat cannot be sold on it deters people from shooting them which is something our local Mps are trying to change so the goose population is on the increase. cheers Callum Quote Link to post
TWOTWOTHREE 152 Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Hi Callum They sound like a growing problem, Hope the powers that be get it sorted for people like ur cousin and other farmers who's livelihood it affects.so I guess you have to control them how u see fit,I was curious about the earlier comment about it being on the fac as I didn't know a vermin geese species is classed otherwise , Atb Quote Link to post
mangy1983 51 Posted January 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Hi Callum They sound like a growing problem, Hope the powers that be get it sorted for people like ur cousin and other farmers who's livelihood it affects.so I guess you have to control them how u see fit,I was curious about the earlier comment about it being on the fac as I didn't know a vermin geese species is classed otherwise , Atb To be honest the powers that be won't do a thing, The Scottish Environment minister is ex LACS and says that they are part of the environment and that we should get used to them and is trying to get everyone to adopt a goose scaring policy which is not fixing the problem but passing it on... cheers Callum Quote Link to post
Ratsmasher 36 Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 With regard to the wind thing what you have to remember is that you trajectory isnt straight so for som of the flight your shot is going slightly upwards and for some slightly downwards - obviously this is a minimal affect but over these ranges would have sufficient effect to make a differance, especially if you slightly pulled the shot aswell or something Quote Link to post
kenny14 656 Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 I'd agree with snapshot in that it was probably just a fluffed shot. Unless of course the scope had been knocked some time between your last outing and the missed shot. It's nice to hear that you persuaded the firearms officer to change his view on the calibre too. A case of common sense prevailing Quote Link to post
worthy130 21 Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Could also have been a dirty barrel, I myself shoot the .223 and find that a good cleaning is requires after around 10 shots (with 40 gr round which i love due to the lack of 'jump' that my light rifle gets from 55gr) give it a good clean if this is the case, put a round or 2 through it then re-check zero. with reagards to the selling of the goose meat i am torn because it stops people from killing them JUST for the money, but of course like you say they do need controlling when they become 'feral' ATB Quote Link to post
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