potential

[KittleRox 2,147]

Has the use of locators removed the need of a certain aspect of a ferreting dogs abiltys and therefore the dogs are not being used to there true potential, therefore the owners are not able to appreciate witnessing the full spectrum of a a ferret/dog/man team

[Ideation 8,217]

I know what you are saying, but you are going to get a lot of flak

[johnny boy68 11,726]

I suppose in a way they have Rox, one less part of the game you wouldn't have to tune yourself into.

[KittleRox 2,147]

I know what you are saying, but you are going to get a lot of flak

probably but its a serious question mate, the use of technology removing the need of dog/man etc and peoples ignorance as to what they are missing

 

and I know you,ve got a decent reply in yer heid so lets have it

[KittleRox 2,147]

I suppose in a way they have Rox, one less part of the game you wouldn't have to tune yourself into.

and therefore not quite getting it

[Malt 379]

One thing I think the emergence of the locator has led to is a decrease in the appreciation of a good bolting ferret. Years ago a ferret that continually killed to ground was seen as a nuisance more than anything else, now they seem to be prised. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but when did digging for rabbits at every single bury become an enjoyable part of ferreting?

[Ideation 8,217]

I know what you are saying, but you are going to get a lot of flak

probably but its a serious question mate, the use of technology removing the need of dog/man etc and peoples ignorance as to what they are missing

 

and I know you,ve got a decent reply in yer heid so lets have it

 

In short, i agree, folk dont really have to think, listen, read the signs and work stuff out. Its like most things in life, these gadgets remove the 'hardship / challenge' in life, and with that you lose skills you once had to over come that difficulty and you were probably a better hunter for it. But with the locator you are probably a more efficient rabbit harvester. Its just about what it is to you i guess.

[KittleRox 2,147]

One thing I think the emergence of the locator has led to is a decrease in the appreciation of a good bolting ferret. Years ago a ferret that continually killed to ground was seen as a nuisance more than anything else, now they seem to be prised. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but when did digging for rabbits at every single bury become an enjoyable part of ferreting?

aye I was going to ask the same question aboot ferrets but I didn,t want to get folk and myself confused lol but basicaly I reckon you could be right

[KittleRox 2,147]

I know what you are saying, but you are going to get a lot of flak

probably but its a serious question mate, the use of technology removing the need of dog/man etc and peoples ignorance as to what they are missing

 

and I know you,ve got a decent reply in yer heid so lets have it

 

In short, i agree, folk dont really have to think, listen, read the signs and work stuff out. Its like most things in life, these gadgets remove the 'hardship / challenge' in life, and with that you lose skills you once had to over come that difficulty and you were probably a better hunter for it. But with the locator you are probably a more efficient rabbit harvester. Its just about what it is to you i guess.

Agreed, and i like the hardship, it improves my overall tolerance levels lol

[reddawn 2,173]

surely not everybody that uses a locator digs at every bury i know i dont, i only use a locator as a last resort an then i only ever use it if me or the dog know there has been contact made under the sod, an nothing has moved since, i use bolting jills to empty warrens, tho if the dog or ferrets tell me its not quite empty, then ill use a ferret with a collar to locate an retreive the said bunny/s

[KittleRox 2,147]

surely not everybody that uses a locator digs at every bury i know i dont, i only use a locator as a last resort an then i only ever use it if me or the dog know there has been contact made under the sod, an nothing has moved since, i use bolting jills to empty warrens, tho if the dog or ferrets tell me its not quite empty, then ill use a ferret with a collar to locate an retreive the said bunny/s

Don,t get me wrong mate I can see the plus points of using locators and can appreciate what you,re saying But if you ferret with a locator the very fact that you have one will affect the decisions you make and how you,re dog/ferrets work and a certain aspect of fieldcraft will be lost

[reddawn 2,173]

surely not everybody that uses a locator digs at every bury i know i dont, i only use a locator as a last resort an then i only ever use it if me or the dog know there has been contact made under the sod, an nothing has moved since, i use bolting jills to empty warrens, tho if the dog or ferrets tell me its not quite empty, then ill use a ferret with a collar to locate an retreive the said bunny/s

Don,t get me wrong mate I can see the plus points of using locators and can appreciate what you,re saying But if you ferret with a locator the very fact that you have one will affect the decisions you make and how you,re dog/ferrets work and a certain aspect of fieldcraft will be lost

 

na mate i disagree, maybe for some folk, an id be more inclined to think that if it was going to effect anybody out ferreting it would be the folk that learned how to ferret using a locator, if you have done any sort of serious ferretin without a locator, then i dont think having 1 in your bag will effect you in the slightest.

what is it exactly that yous think is missing from fieldcraft if you have a locator in your bag, thats like me saying that because your too old/set in ways/too tight to buy/try 1, then youll never be dedicated lol

Edited January 6, 2012 by reddawn

[Malt 379]

surely not everybody that uses a locator digs at every bury i know i dont, i only use a locator as a last resort an then i only ever use it if me or the dog know there has been contact made under the sod, an nothing has moved since, i use bolting jills to empty warrens, tho if the dog or ferrets tell me its not quite empty, then ill use a ferret with a collar to locate an retreive the said bunny/s

 

No mate, but I've been out with some that do. Ferret's down for 30 seconds then it's out with the old knocking box and doing the feed the chickens dance all over the buries.

 

I'm not adverse to using a locator, they can be a real useful tool, but at the same time I don't think they are essential and something that would prevent you ferreting should you not have the use of one.

[reddawn 2,173]

surely not everybody that uses a locator digs at every bury i know i dont, i only use a locator as a last resort an then i only ever use it if me or the dog know there has been contact made under the sod, an nothing has moved since, i use bolting jills to empty warrens, tho if the dog or ferrets tell me its not quite empty, then ill use a ferret with a collar to locate an retreive the said bunny/s

 

No mate, but I've been out with some that do. Ferret's down for 30 seconds then it's out with the old knocking box and doing the feed the chickens dance all over the buries.

 

I'm not adverse to using a locator, they can be a real useful tool, but at the same time I don't think they are essential and something that would prevent you ferreting should you not have the use of one.

 

lets face it, only 1 thing is essential to a days ferreting, an thats the ferrets, the nets, locator, even the box is all just there to make life easier for us

[KittleRox 2,147]

surely not everybody that uses a locator digs at every bury i know i dont, i only use a locator as a last resort an then i only ever use it if me or the dog know there has been contact made under the sod, an nothing has moved since, i use bolting jills to empty warrens, tho if the dog or ferrets tell me its not quite empty, then ill use a ferret with a collar to locate an retreive the said bunny/s

Don,t get me wrong mate I can see the plus points of using locators and can appreciate what you,re saying But if you ferret with a locator the very fact that you have one will affect the decisions you make and how you,re dog/ferrets work and a certain aspect of fieldcraft will be lost

 

na mate i disagree, maybe for some folk, an id be more inclined to think that if it was going to effect anybody out ferreting it would be the folk that learned how to ferret using a locator, if you have done any sort of serious ferretin without a locator, then i dont think having 1 in your bag will effect you in the slightest.

what is it exactly that yous think is missing from fieldcraft if you have a locator in your bag, thats like me saying that because your too old/set in ways/too tight to buy/try 1, then youll never be dedicated lol

I,ll have to disagree with you mate, maybe you have the patience of a saint before you whip the carrot out but I can,t see many folk with locators waiting about for as long as yourself and therefore missing out on their own and there dogs true poential, by that I mean not letting the dog and yourself for that matter using all you,re senses and patience, and malt makes the point a different type of ferret being used and bred, killer in as apposed to a bolting ferret or vice versa

I do take you,re points mate and I,d go out and buy a locator if results/big bags was my goal but a result for me is the pleasure and the pain experienced on a day oot and the teamwork involved without a locator, some may say i,m not a serious ferreter, maybe so but ,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

I know me and you have had this argument before reDD awn