fast dogs 51 Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGMyr9XE8ho Edited September 29, 2011 by fast dogs Quote Link to post
Bootsha 1,306 Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 Put it on a slip untill it learns its game, otherwise do exactly as you did. Dont let the dog go until the smile is taken out of your slip lead and its taut, and your dog wants to chase the rabbit, if the lead dont go tight, dont let it go, it will soon, but perhaps not straight away. Assuming that your youngster isnt a saluki type cross or similar,seeing as I have no experience at all with that cross so I wont pretend to know anything about them, as I know f**k all about them, only that some area known to be a bit "half soaked" on occassion, especially before they know the game. As i said, this is just my humble opinion, but try it on a slip mate until it gets the idea, but dont let it go until it shows you that it wants the chase. Hope its of some help to you. B 2 Quote Link to post
fast dogs 51 Posted September 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 thanks for that mate Quote Link to post
rob190364 2,594 Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 the shit music put it off Quote Link to post
bird 10,014 Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 well what i could make out, you had dog the in the wrong position 1st, and the rabbit just got to upits left. What i do is get dog the facing the rabbits arse, so what ever way the rabbit going to run (left ot right) its there with it. Just touch the rabbit up then as soon as it runs and the dog defintely saw it slip it. Thats what i would have done and i catch fair few with my dogs like this when they are stating out. Bryn caught loads , but started him the same way as i said Quote Link to post
Guest born to run1083 Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 is there a clip where you havnt made it go slow mo at the end, looks as tho dog isn't even trying but might be due to the vid lol won't take to long for your dog to get the idea mate just keep doing it over and over again with it, salukis can take much longer to learn something then most other breeds so just keep it at it and it will soon learn Quote Link to post
skycat 6,174 Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 When you are walking out to the rabbit, keep looking down at the dog on the slip. Watch the angle of its head, the prick of its ears. Young dogs don't know how to look down the beam, and won't even see a rabbit squatting at their feet. They can take time to learn that spotlight on the ground equals rabbit. Dog vision is triggered by movement. On a windy night the dog could be standing right next to the rabbit and not even hear it take off. The dog's ears might be pricked, but it might be looking in the wrong direction, or it could be smelling something else on the wind. If you stand over a squatter and the dog's head is high, it ain't looking at the rabbit at its feet. When you reach a squatter, stand there and wait until either the rabbit moves, or nudge the rabbit with your foot. Even then I've known young dogs be looking in the wrong direction and still not see it. I like to spot a rabbit which is ambling about a bit. Not running, just moving a step or two now and again; it is the movement which the dog will see first, and its much easier for a young dog to see a rabbit which sits up, takes a couple of steps etc than one which just looks like a lump on the ground. I don't try and teach a young dog on squatters unless it has seen a lot of daytime rabbits and knows what to look for: those grey lumps on the ground: its all practice. 3 Quote Link to post
fast dogs 51 Posted September 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 (edited) thank lads my pups first time out on thr lamp Edited September 29, 2011 by fast dogs Quote Link to post
jetro 5,349 Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 well what i could make out, you had dog the in the wrong position 1st, and the rabbit just got to upits left. What i do is get dog the facing the rabbits arse, so what ever way the rabbit going to run (left ot right) its there with it. Just touch the rabbit up then as soon as it runs and the dog defintely saw it slip it. Thats what i would have done and i catch fair few with my dogs like this when they are stating out. Bryn caught loads , but started him the same way as i said nice photos bird. fine looking dog aswell. j. Quote Link to post
Guest born to run1083 Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 I think teaching dogs on squatters is the best way as in the long run they learn more off them, my bitch here could take squatters from only the second time on the lamp, on dark windy nights I can say 90% of rabbits that squat she'l take off the seat, bird is a good one to tell you about her as he's seen her do it, don't like dogs just relying on movement. as said it will take longer for the dog to learn on squatters but in the end your have a better lamp dog. Quote Link to post
bird 10,014 Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 well what i could make out, you had dog the in the wrong position 1st, and the rabbit just got to upits left. What i do is get dog the facing the rabbits arse, so what ever way the rabbit going to run (left ot right) its there with it. Just touch the rabbit up then as soon as it runs and the dog defintely saw it slip it. Thats what i would have done and i catch fair few with my dogs like this when they are stating out. Bryn caught loads , but started him the same way as i said nice photos bird. fine looking dog aswell. j. thanks mate , Bryn bang on in the rabbit game. Quote Link to post
bird 10,014 Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 I think teaching dogs on squatters is the best way as in the long run they learn more off them, my bitch here could take squatters from only the second time on the lamp, on dark windy nights I can say 90% of rabbits that squat she'l take off the seat, bird is a good one to tell you about her as he's seen her do it, don't like dogs just relying on movement. as said it will take longer for the dog to learn on squatters but in the end your have a better lamp dog. yes mate she is Brill on them, makes the job alot more easy.! Quote Link to post
skycat 6,174 Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 I hear what your'e saying, but getting the dog to look down the beam is the first thing to teach, IMO. And I do think that it depends on your ground too: rough plough, dragged up stubble is perfect camouflage for rabbits: even experienced dogs find it hard to see them and just rely on the beam: most of ours on that sort of ground will run to the end of the beam and wait for the rabbit to jump as even the human eye can be fooled. Many's the time I've walked right over a rabbit in my beam: just couldn't see it for love nor money when I got there, and its eventually jumped right under my feet. Same goes for rape. Grass land is totally different I agree, and dogs learn to spot them fast. Quote Link to post
rocky1 942 Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 WHEN LAMPING FIELD GRAFT IS VITAL ,KNOWING YOUR NEXT MOVE BEFORE EVEN HAPPENS AND YOU BEEN READY AND PUTTING YOUR DOG IN THE BEST POSTION 2 TAKE IT Quote Link to post
robert michem 314 Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 (edited) meself the worst thing you can do his try it on tight sitting rabbits,,, you get down to a dogs leavel,,, its eyes will over ride them,, when pups,,,, go for some think more up right,, and wait till it moves a little,,, start the job as you want it to finish,,, cut the walking up too them out,, Edited September 29, 2011 by robert michem Quote Link to post
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