stormyboy 1,352 Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Theres an old saying 'you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear' Theres another one too-'some will never own a good dog as long as they have a hole in their arse'. Theres usually a good reason. 1 Quote Link to post
EVERYDOGHASHISDAY 9 Posted September 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Theres an old saying 'you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear' Theres another one too-'some will never own a good dog as long as they have a hole in their arse'. Theres usually a good reason. That is true as well, I knew a man years ago that had wheatons,russells, fells ect supposedly fom good stock dont remember a decent one he kept,I would still say that 9 pups of different sires and dams and two different breeds of terrier from the same yard and all pups with different men surely by the law of averages a few would have made it if they were not bred from shit . Fact is that the dogs that they are out of are afraid of the dark on there own .So it is no wonder . Quote Link to post
slay3r 1 Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 What does it really mean, in my opinion some young dogs will be ruined by idiots but to me in the majority of cases " IF ENTERED CORRECTLY " is used by money makers/ peddlars as an excuse when to cover up the fact that there dogs are shit and aint got the minerals in the first place. The reason that i have come to that conclusion is that i know of 9 pups that came from one yard to different people and not one made a digging dog could it be that is because they were bred from ££ shit x ££shit in the first place.OR were all ruined by fools. " IF ENTERED CORRECTLY " so tell us then how you would enter a dog correctly ensuring it was not ruined....................? Quote Link to post
Cleanspade 3,322 Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 there will be as many good terriers ruined by poor entering as there are none starters due to poor breeding. i'm certain that folk that breed top quality stuff. prefare to see there stock entered carefully. dogs that are known for early starting need more care imo. some fella's have a better rate than other folk. becouse they have good dog sense. and can read there animal. Others couldnt read the cuffin beano. Quote Link to post
FightTheBan 1,147 Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 If entered correctly...a jacker will still jack. Its either in them or it isn't. What commonly happens is a dog that possesses the necessary qualities is ruined due to oor entering. No one can say if entered correctly these pups will graft. Even the best of breeding produces shite on occasion. I have seen some truly shocking entering. People who want it all on a plate and who have no patience. A lethal quality in any dogman imo. If its there it will shine. But you can't put in what god left out. ATB FTB 1 Quote Link to post
hunt 30 Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 have had two same lines different parents but same gene pool all fail to make the grade and another on the mile this season all i feel entered correctly with the correct socialising all three pups very well bred with years of breeding behind them but we also have pups out of our own stuff that have shine with the same entering i think it is the luck of the draw 90 percent breeding 10 percent luck true some will never own a good dog but others will and have done im starting to think maybe these so called named lines have run there course in a lot of instances and maybe as long as you have a kennel of stuff that works to your standard and you are happy with it stick with it breed best to the best and remember one thing the grass is always greener on the other side but nine times out of ten it isnt good luck and good hunting Quote Link to post
slay3r 1 Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 On this thinking then there should be no putting down of a particular breed as even if you have a geneticly good dog from a proven breed or parentage there is obviously a lot of reliance on the dogs instinct and ability. If this is the case then unless people can point the finger at a particular dog then no breed can tared with any brush. If you are a particularly good dog person or particularly bad dog person you can at the end of the day only work with dogs that you have in front of you so the calling of either has to be made on first hand experience not on speculation.....maybe ?? Quote Link to post
fellman 116 Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Theres an old saying 'you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear' Aint that a fact. i like the phrase"you cant polish a turd" Quote Link to post
LAZYBSTARD 225 Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 If entered correctly...a jacker will still jack. Its either in them or it isn't. What commonly happens is a dog that possesses the necessary qualities is ruined due to oor entering. No one can say if entered correctly these pups will graft. Even the best of breeding produces shite on occasion. I have seen some truly shocking entering. People who want it all on a plate and who have no patience. A lethal quality in any dogman imo. If its there it will shine. But you can't put in what god left out. ATB FTB i would say thats the biggest load of shit i have ever seen on here .......i seen a young terrier bitch origin unknown probably stolen but the best example of a border x lakeland i ever seen i was out with a bunch of cruel b*****ds in the 80s they had about ten dogs running a set it was dropped down into the hole that was dug and tried to jump back out it was kicked booted held up by the back legs and hit with a spade i stepped in before it got its second one and took it home it hated the site of me to the day it died but had taken to my brother...and this is a fact it ended up the best digging dog i have ever seen Quote Link to post
FightTheBan 1,147 Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 If entered correctly...a jacker will still jack. Its either in them or it isn't. What commonly happens is a dog that possesses the necessary qualities is ruined due to oor entering. No one can say if entered correctly these pups will graft. Even the best of breeding produces shite on occasion. I have seen some truly shocking entering. People who want it all on a plate and who have no patience. A lethal quality in any dogman imo. If its there it will shine. But you can't put in what god left out. ATB FTB i would say thats the biggest load of shit i have ever seen on here .......i seen a young terrier bitch origin unknown probably stolen but the best example of a border x lakeland i ever seen i was out with a bunch of cruel b*****ds in the 80s they had about ten dogs running a set it was dropped down into the hole that was dug and tried to jump back out it was kicked booted held up by the back legs and hit with a spade i stepped in before it got its second one and took it home it hated the site of me to the day it died but had taken to my brother...and this is a fact it ended up the best digging dog i have ever seen About ten dogs running a set and you think this is a good way to work dogs...or if it was its first time the correct way to enter one, by hole ending it? Read my post numbnuts before spouting your pish. Are you trying to say that every terrier will make the grade if brought on the right way Cant wait to see your reply. FTB Quote Link to post
pattstaff 157 Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 If entered correctly...a jacker will still jack. Its either in them or it isn't. What commonly happens is a dog that possesses the necessary qualities is ruined due to oor entering. No one can say if entered correctly these pups will graft. Even the best of breeding produces shite on occasion. I have seen some truly shocking entering. People who want it all on a plate and who have no patience. A lethal quality in any dogman imo. If its there it will shine. But you can't put in what god left out. ATB FTB i would say thats the biggest load of shit i have ever seen on here .......i seen a young terrier bitch origin unknown probably stolen but the best example of a border x lakeland i ever seen i was out with a bunch of cruel b*****ds in the 80s they had about ten dogs running a set it was dropped down into the hole that was dug and tried to jump back out it was kicked booted held up by the back legs and hit with a spade i stepped in before it got its second one and took it home it hated the site of me to the day it died but had taken to my brother...and this is a fact it ended up the best digging dog i have ever seen Away down then to your local dog shelter and get yourself some breeding stock,but tell me this,how many Grand national winners do you know that have been bred out of two donkeys? Quote Link to post
LAZYBSTARD 225 Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 If entered correctly...a jacker will still jack. Its either in them or it isn't. What commonly happens is a dog that possesses the necessary qualities is ruined due to oor entering. No one can say if entered correctly these pups will graft. Even the best of breeding produces shite on occasion. I have seen some truly shocking entering. People who want it all on a plate and who have no patience. A lethal quality in any dogman imo. If its there it will shine. But you can't put in what god left out. ATB FTB i would say thats the biggest load of shit i have ever seen on here .......i seen a young terrier bitch origin unknown probably stolen but the best example of a border x lakeland i ever seen i was out with a bunch of cruel b*****ds in the 80s they had about ten dogs running a set it was dropped down into the hole that was dug and tried to jump back out it was kicked booted held up by the back legs and hit with a spade i stepped in before it got its second one and took it home it hated the site of me to the day it died but had taken to my brother...and this is a fact it ended up the best digging dog i have ever seen About ten dogs running a set and you think this is a good way to work dogs...or if it was its first time the correct way to enter one, by hole ending it? Read my post numbnuts before spouting your pish. Are you trying to say that every terrier will make the grade if brought on the right way Cant wait to see your reply. FTB i was 15 teen they were married men an the terrier new as much as me im not trying to say every terrier will make the grade { truely shocking entering} your words not mine was it as bad as what i said that terrier made the grade because it was still being dug when i was a married man....... im not going to get into name calling Quote Link to post
LAZYBSTARD 225 Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 If entered correctly...a jacker will still jack. Its either in them or it isn't. What commonly happens is a dog that possesses the necessary qualities is ruined due to oor entering. No one can say if entered correctly these pups will graft. Even the best of breeding produces shite on occasion. I have seen some truly shocking entering. People who want it all on a plate and who have no patience. A lethal quality in any dogman imo. If its there it will shine. But you can't put in what god left out. ATB FTB i would say thats the biggest load of shit i have ever seen on here .......i seen a young terrier bitch origin unknown probably stolen but the best example of a border x lakeland i ever seen i was out with a bunch of cruel b*****ds in the 80s they had about ten dogs running a set it was dropped down into the hole that was dug and tried to jump back out it was kicked booted held up by the back legs and hit with a spade i stepped in before it got its second one and took it home it hated the site of me to the day it died but had taken to my brother...and this is a fact it ended up the best digging dog i have ever seen Away down then to your local dog shelter and get yourself some breeding stock,but tell me this,how many Grand national winners do you know that have been bred out of two donkeys? is this not the terrier section Quote Link to post
pattstaff 157 Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 If entered correctly...a jacker will still jack. Its either in them or it isn't. What commonly happens is a dog that possesses the necessary qualities is ruined due to oor entering. No one can say if entered correctly these pups will graft. Even the best of breeding produces shite on occasion. I have seen some truly shocking entering. People who want it all on a plate and who have no patience. A lethal quality in any dogman imo. If its there it will shine. But you can't put in what god left out. ATB FTB i would say thats the biggest load of shit i have ever seen on here .......i seen a young terrier bitch origin unknown probably stolen but the best example of a border x lakeland i ever seen i was out with a bunch of cruel b*****ds in the 80s they had about ten dogs running a set it was dropped down into the hole that was dug and tried to jump back out it was kicked booted held up by the back legs and hit with a spade i stepped in before it got its second one and took it home it hated the site of me to the day it died but had taken to my brother...and this is a fact it ended up the best digging dog i have ever seen Away down then to your local dog shelter and get yourself some breeding stock,but tell me this,how many Grand national winners do you know that have been bred out of two donkeys? is this not the terrier section Hey Lazy you've got me on the ropes now,that blows my argument right out of the water 1 Quote Link to post
LAZYBSTARD 225 Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 If entered correctly...a jacker will still jack. Its either in them or it isn't. What commonly happens is a dog that possesses the necessary qualities is ruined due to oor entering. No one can say if entered correctly these pups will graft. Even the best of breeding produces shite on occasion. I have seen some truly shocking entering. People who want it all on a plate and who have no patience. A lethal quality in any dogman imo. If its there it will shine. But you can't put in what god left out. ATB FTB i would say thats the biggest load of shit i have ever seen on here .......i seen a young terrier bitch origin unknown probably stolen but the best example of a border x lakeland i ever seen i was out with a bunch of cruel b*****ds in the 80s they had about ten dogs running a set it was dropped down into the hole that was dug and tried to jump back out it was kicked booted held up by the back legs and hit with a spade i stepped in before it got its second one and took it home it hated the site of me to the day it died but had taken to my brother...and this is a fact it ended up the best digging dog i have ever seen Away down then to your local dog shelter and get yourself some breeding stock,but tell me this,how many Grand national winners do you know that have been bred out of two donkeys? is this not the terrier section Hey Lazy you've got me on the ropes now,that blows my argument right out of the water what i said what has it got to do with dogs out of a dog shelter or donkeys wise up Quote Link to post
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