rioters

[blan89 159]

Oh right, so its better to make arrests after the crimes are committed than stop them from even being committed is it? Thats why they were prosecuted, because they had every intention of causing a riot! How do you not get that? If I threatened to murder someone and the authorities genuinely believed I was going to then should I not be prosecuted for the law I have broken before I actually commit the worse crime of murder?

 

Editted to add, incase you were unaware making the threat to murder is a crime.

what a load of bollocks the lads said it was a joke before they were arrested,even if they didnt nothing can be proved.

 

how can you not see how this sort of thing could be used against YOU ffs?

 

guilty until proven innocent,i guess its only ok when its somebody else or you dont agree with the crime they are accused of.

 

@ scothunter,so should every crime not be judged on its own merit?

 

batter some poor c**t in the street,rob them,setting fire to their house are all serious crimes regardless of if there was a riot going on

 

forget the riot,would saying lets have a riot behind maccy's be a crime in normal circumstances?would it be worthy of 4 years?

 

if you want to limit our fredom of expression,it will apply to you too,no more potentially racist/homophobic/anti-religious jokes,they are all proof that you where about to commit a hate crime.

 

 

freedom of expression is too important to f**k around with like this.

 

If I was threatening to commit a serious crime then I would expect to suffer the legal punishment! Difference being, Im not that f*****g stupid. Freedom of speech and inciting a crime are different. But in you gun toteing perfect world where everythings perfect I guess you dont have that issue.

 

And what were they expressing then? Ill tell ya what, their plans for a f*****g riot! Anyone can speak their mind but start planning a crime and you have over stepped the mark!

 

Answer my question about threatening murder. Should I be arrested for making the threat before or arrested for commiting murder after?

 

and to answer your question,no you should not be arrested for threatening murder,if it becomes harassment then other steps may be taken.

you never said anything similar in jest?

 

but of course our un-biased judges backed up by our infallible politicians would never allow that.

[blan89 159]

and to answer your question,no you should not be arrested for threatening murder,if it becomes harassment or threatening behaviour then other steps may be taken.

you never said anything similar in jest?

 

but of course our un-biased judges backed up by our infallible politicians would never allow that to be abused,common sense would as it always does in these matters shine through in the end.

Edited August 18, 2011 by blan89

[scothunter 12,609]

Oh right, so its better to make arrests after the crimes are committed than stop them from even being committed is it? Thats why they were prosecuted, because they had every intention of causing a riot! How do you not get that? If I threatened to murder someone and the authorities genuinely believed I was going to then should I not be prosecuted for the law I have broken before I actually commit the worse crime of murder?

 

Editted to add, incase you were unaware making the threat to murder is a crime.

what a load of bollocks the lads said it was a joke before they were arrested,even if they didnt nothing can be proved.

 

how can you not see how this sort of thing could be used against YOU ffs?

 

guilty until proven innocent,i guess its only ok when its somebody else or you dont agree with the crime they are accused of.

 

@ scothunter,so should every crime not be judged on its own merit?

 

batter some poor c**t in the street,rob them,setting fire to their house are all serious crimes regardless of if there was a riot going on

 

forget the riot,would saying lets have a riot behind maccy's be a crime in normal circumstances?would it be worthy of 4 years?

 

if you want to limit our fredom of expression,it will apply to you too,no more potentially racist/homophobic/anti-religious jokes,they are all proof that you where about to commit a hate crime.

 

 

freedom of expression is too important to f**k around with like this.

 

well blan.yes im racist and dont like minorities.however im not breaking the law.that is just my personal mind and opinion,but if i made up a web page and decided to call for whites to burn out the blacks and attack them.then im guilty of hate speech and inciting to cause a public disorder.i would be arrested and in all probability jailed.so to avoid this i dont have a wab site or call on whites to kill blacks.last year a load of chavs/neds from scotland were arrested for going on face book brandishing meat cleavers and blades knuckle dusters and any other lethal weapon they can get thier hands on.now if that swoop saved one lads face from being slashed,or worse someone being murdered,then im all for it.is that a breach of your rights?who f*****g cares if your ganna behave like some wannabe jimmy boyle or some other equaliy viscious c**t then f**k your rights.

[Born Hunter 17,977]

Oh right, so its better to make arrests after the crimes are committed than stop them from even being committed is it? Thats why they were prosecuted, because they had every intention of causing a riot! How do you not get that? If I threatened to murder someone and the authorities genuinely believed I was going to then should I not be prosecuted for the law I have broken before I actually commit the worse crime of murder?

 

Editted to add, incase you were unaware making the threat to murder is a crime.

what a load of bollocks the lads said it was a joke before they were arrested,even if they didnt nothing can be proved.

 

how can you not see how this sort of thing could be used against YOU ffs?

 

guilty until proven innocent,i guess its only ok when its somebody else or you dont agree with the crime they are accused of.

 

@ scothunter,so should every crime not be judged on its own merit?

 

batter some poor c**t in the street,rob them,setting fire to their house are all serious crimes regardless of if there was a riot going on

 

forget the riot,would saying lets have a riot behind maccy's be a crime in normal circumstances?would it be worthy of 4 years?

 

if you want to limit our fredom of expression,it will apply to you too,no more potentially racist/homophobic/anti-religious jokes,they are all proof that you where about to commit a hate crime.

 

 

freedom of expression is too important to f**k around with like this.

 

If I was threatening to commit a serious crime then I would expect to suffer the legal punishment! Difference being, Im not that f*****g stupid. Freedom of speech and inciting a crime are different. But in you gun toteing perfect world where everythings perfect I guess you dont have that issue.

 

And what were they expressing then? Ill tell ya what, their plans for a f*****g riot! Anyone can speak their mind but start planning a crime and you have over stepped the mark!

 

Answer my question about threatening murder. Should I be arrested for making the threat before or arrested for commiting murder after?

 

and to answer your question,no you should not be arrested for threatening murder,if it becomes harassment then other steps may be taken.

you never said anything similar in jest?

 

but of course our un-biased judges backed up by our infallible politicians would never allow that.

 

Ive never threatened to murder someone no, but I appreciate things get said in the heat of the moment. The police wouldnt take such a threat seriously unless there was good reason to. I think the threat these lads made had serious intention (seeing as the whole country was rioting!) and so it was treated with the same serious regard.

 

As for your freedom a speak comment, its fine to have an opinion and express it but using that freedom to communicate with others to commit a very serious crime is against the law as it should be. Preventing people planning acts of terror, riots, murders etc is not infringing on their rights to speak freely.

[blan89 159]

Oh right, so its better to make arrests after the crimes are committed than stop them from even being committed is it? Thats why they were prosecuted, because they had every intention of causing a riot! How do you not get that? If I threatened to murder someone and the authorities genuinely believed I was going to then should I not be prosecuted for the law I have broken before I actually commit the worse crime of murder?

 

Editted to add, incase you were unaware making the threat to murder is a crime.

what a load of bollocks the lads said it was a joke before they were arrested,even if they didnt nothing can be proved.

 

how can you not see how this sort of thing could be used against YOU ffs?

 

guilty until proven innocent,i guess its only ok when its somebody else or you dont agree with the crime they are accused of.

 

@ scothunter,so should every crime not be judged on its own merit?

 

batter some poor c**t in the street,rob them,setting fire to their house are all serious crimes regardless of if there was a riot going on

 

forget the riot,would saying lets have a riot behind maccy's be a crime in normal circumstances?would it be worthy of 4 years?

 

if you want to limit our fredom of expression,it will apply to you too,no more potentially racist/homophobic/anti-religious jokes,they are all proof that you where about to commit a hate crime.

 

 

freedom of expression is too important to f**k around with like this.

 

well blan.yes im racist and dont like minorities.however im not breaking the law.that is just my personal mind and opinion,but if i made up a web page and decided to call for whites to burn out the blacks and attack them.then im guilty of hate speech and inciting to cause a public disorder.i would be arrested and in all probability jailed.so to avoid this i dont have a wab site or call on whites to kill blacks.last year a load of chavs/neds from scotland were arrested for going on face book brandishing meat cleavers and blades knuckle dusters and any other lethal weapon they can get thier hands on.now if that swoop saved one lads face from being slashed,or worse someone being murdered,then im all for it.is that a breach of your rights?who f*****g cares if your ganna behave like some wannabe jimmy boyle or some other equaliy viscious c**t then f**k your rights.

 

i respect your right to be racist and incite all the shit you want,not because i agree just because freedom of speech isnt free,we have to maintain it and be vigilant,and yet very few are doing that in fact most are calling for it to be limited.

 

and who is to decide what qualifies as hate speech?

the politicians?

do you trust them with anything that important?

 

i wouldnt trust any politician in this country to do anything except try to squeeze every penny i have out of my,just like they always have done.

[blan89 159]

Oh right, so its better to make arrests after the crimes are committed than stop them from even being committed is it? Thats why they were prosecuted, because they had every intention of causing a riot! How do you not get that? If I threatened to murder someone and the authorities genuinely believed I was going to then should I not be prosecuted for the law I have broken before I actually commit the worse crime of murder?

 

Editted to add, incase you were unaware making the threat to murder is a crime.

what a load of bollocks the lads said it was a joke before they were arrested,even if they didnt nothing can be proved.

 

how can you not see how this sort of thing could be used against YOU ffs?

 

guilty until proven innocent,i guess its only ok when its somebody else or you dont agree with the crime they are accused of.

 

@ scothunter,so should every crime not be judged on its own merit?

 

batter some poor c**t in the street,rob them,setting fire to their house are all serious crimes regardless of if there was a riot going on

 

forget the riot,would saying lets have a riot behind maccy's be a crime in normal circumstances?would it be worthy of 4 years?

 

if you want to limit our fredom of expression,it will apply to you too,no more potentially racist/homophobic/anti-religious jokes,they are all proof that you where about to commit a hate crime.

 

 

freedom of expression is too important to f**k around with like this.

 

If I was threatening to commit a serious crime then I would expect to suffer the legal punishment! Difference being, Im not that f*****g stupid. Freedom of speech and inciting a crime are different. But in you gun toteing perfect world where everythings perfect I guess you dont have that issue.

 

And what were they expressing then? Ill tell ya what, their plans for a f*****g riot! Anyone can speak their mind but start planning a crime and you have over stepped the mark!

 

Answer my question about threatening murder. Should I be arrested for making the threat before or arrested for commiting murder after?

 

and to answer your question,no you should not be arrested for threatening murder,if it becomes harassment then other steps may be taken.

you never said anything similar in jest?

 

but of course our un-biased judges backed up by our infallible politicians would never allow that.

 

Ive never threatened to murder someone no, but I appreciate things get said in the heat of the moment. The police wouldnt take such a threat seriously unless there was good reason to. I think the threat these lads made had serious intention (seeing as the whole country was rioting!) and so it was treated with the same serious regard.

 

As for your freedom a speak comment, its fine to have an opinion and express it but using that freedom to communicate with others to commit a very serious crime is against the law as it should be. Preventing people planning acts of terror, riots, murders etc is not infringing on their rights to speak freely.

 

read my sig for a full in depth retort to that comment.

[scothunter 12,609]

hey blan this should make your night,another guy was jailed for 16month for helping himself to crispy doughnuts lol

Edited August 18, 2011 by scothunter

[EVERYDOGHASHISDAY 9]

There is mayhem in Hackney again tonight ,down by the Hackney Empire, apparently the Caiser Chiefs are playing there, and they predict a riot.

[FightTheBan 1,147]

Oh right, so its better to make arrests after the crimes are committed than stop them from even being committed is it? Thats why they were prosecuted, because they had every intention of causing a riot! How do you not get that? If I threatened to murder someone and the authorities genuinely believed I was going to then should I not be prosecuted for the law I have broken before I actually commit the worse crime of murder?

 

Editted to add, incase you were unaware making the threat to murder is a crime.

what a load of bollocks the lads said it was a joke before they were arrested,even if they didnt nothing can be proved.

 

how can you not see how this sort of thing could be used against YOU ffs?

 

guilty until proven innocent,i guess its only ok when its somebody else or you dont agree with the crime they are accused of.

 

@ scothunter,so should every crime not be judged on its own merit?

 

batter some poor c**t in the street,rob them,setting fire to their house are all serious crimes regardless of if there was a riot going on

 

forget the riot,would saying lets have a riot behind maccy's be a crime in normal circumstances?would it be worthy of 4 years?

 

if you want to limit our fredom of expression,it will apply to you too,no more potentially racist/homophobic/anti-religious jokes,they are all proof that you where about to commit a hate crime.

 

 

freedom of expression is too important to f**k around with like this.

 

well blan.yes im racist and dont like minorities.however im not breaking the law.that is just my personal mind and opinion,but if i made up a web page and decided to call for whites to burn out the blacks and attack them.then im guilty of hate speech and inciting to cause a public disorder.i would be arrested and in all probability jailed.so to avoid this i dont have a wab site or call on whites to kill blacks.last year a load of chavs/neds from scotland were arrested for going on face book brandishing meat cleavers and blades knuckle dusters and any other lethal weapon they can get thier hands on.now if that swoop saved one lads face from being slashed,or worse someone being murdered,then im all for it.is that a breach of your rights?who f*****g cares if your ganna behave like some wannabe jimmy boyle or some other equaliy viscious c**t then f**k your rights.

 

 

Legend

 

FTB

[dixiebop 125]

The Sentence,s are pure OVERKILL !! Rapists barely get 4yr.You would be Guilty a few posts back with your" putting people in Incinerators" just think if someone had access to one and got in touch,would you be guilty of collusion ?

Edited August 30, 2011 by dixiebop

[Malt 379]

Blan I admire your ability to think for yourself and to stay true to your views, but you don't half speak a load of shit at times mate..

[scothunter 12,609]

searchlight,oh i would quite happily shove them into an oven aswell.a load of unwashed antis. well i guess everyone is entitled to a say on thier sentences.i dont think they are overkill at all.but ive said plenty on that.diffrence in my post is i wasnt calling on anyone to go shove scum in an oven.it was just my own personal thought.

 

oh and my days of paki bashing is well over im sad to say.thats a young mans game.although looking at the youth today,i dont really hold out much hope on that front.

Edited August 18, 2011 by scothunter

[dixiebop 125]

searchlight,oh i would quite happily shove them into an oven aswell.a load of unwashed antis. well i guess everyone is entitled to a say on thier sentences.i dont think they are overkill at all.but ive said plenty on that.diffrence in my post is i wasnt calling on anyone to go shove scum in an oven.it was just my own personal thought.

 

oh and my days of paki bashing is well over im sad to say.thats a young mans game.although looking at the youth today,i dont really hold out much hope on that front.

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[blan89 159]

hey blan this should make your night,another guy was jailed for 16month for helping himself to crispy doughnuts lol

 

well if the judge really wanted to be an arse hole he could of given him up to 5 years.

 

still the punishment doesnt fit the crime,violent criminals and sex offenders often get less time.

 

all just conjecture at this point but maybe the precedent is being set for a good work force if/when prisons get privatised?

[blan89 159]

Blan I admire your ability to think for yourself and to stay true to your views, but you don't half speak a load of shit at times mate..

 

pull me up on what shit i've posted mate.

 

they're not all my own ideas,ive been following the libertarian movement in America and find those ideals of personal responsibility,increased property rights and limited government very appealing.