pegleg33 134 Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Boxing Atheletics Cycling Swimming MMA Tennis........... At some time or the other they have had or still have the best at these sports and alot more Boxing....wrong....Mexico Athletics...wouldnt swear to it but my guess would be Russia,though fair do,s they still have a fair shout. Cycling....dont know. Swimming,possibly but id say the Aussies would run them close. mma who cares its not even a proper sport. Tennis....possibly. Of the worlds most popular sports only boxing could really be included,and they dont lead the world in that.....athletics though yes thats a fair point My point being is the countries that harness the youth and improve their abilities tend to go on and dominate in their chosen sport.However we rely heavily on our kids being found or pushed on by parents with alot of money to invest.You can't tell me where you were born makes you a better sportsman (apart from some sports) alot of it boils down to the training and the conditioning you've had from a young age Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,602 Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 ANYWAY.....ANY COUNTRY THAT THROWS AN EGG SHAPED OBJECT WITH THE HANDS.........AND CALLS IT FOOTBALL ......YOU HAVE TO BE A TINY BIT DUBIOUS ABOUT ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pegleg33 134 Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 ANYWAY.....ANY COUNTRY THAT THROWS AN EGG SHAPED OBJECT WITH THE HANDS.........AND CALLS IT FOOTBALL ......YOU HAVE TO BE A TINY BIT DUBIOUS ABOUT ! I'll happily concede to that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,602 Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 My point being is the countries that harness the youth and improve their abilities tend to go on and dominate in their chosen sport.However we rely heavily on our kids being found or pushed on by parents with alot of money to invest.You can't tell me where you were born makes you a better sportsman (apart from some sports) alot of it boils down to the training and the conditioning you've had from a young age You say that but yes i do believe where you are raised makes a big difference in some sports......Some sports like football or boxing can lift kids out of the shit.......would Tim Henman or Andy Murray have played lawn tennis had they grown up on the Silwood Estate Bermondsey....no......would David Haye have boxed had he been brought up in a leafy Surrey suburb,probably not.......the greatest sportsmen this country have ever produced did not come from money,thats a fact......the beauty of 90% of sport is it has no boundaries.....pretty much anybody can be succesful regardless of background. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ossie n Arch 1,683 Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 ANYWAY.....ANY COUNTRY THAT THROWS AN EGG SHAPED OBJECT WITH THE HANDS.........AND CALLS IT FOOTBALL ......YOU HAVE TO BE A TINY BIT DUBIOUS ABOUT ! Err, excuse me, ...........Rugby Football Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pegleg33 134 Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 My point being is the countries that harness the youth and improve their abilities tend to go on and dominate in their chosen sport.However we rely heavily on our kids being found or pushed on by parents with alot of money to invest.You can't tell me where you were born makes you a better sportsman (apart from some sports) alot of it boils down to the training and the conditioning you've had from a young age You say that but yes i do believe where you are raised makes a big difference in some sports......Some sports like football or boxing can lift kids out of the shit.......would Tim Henman or Andy Murray have played lawn tennis had they grown up on the Silwood Estate Bermondsey....no......would David Haye have boxed had he been brought up in a leafy Surrey suburb,probably not.......the greatest sportsmen this country have ever produced did not come from money,thats a fact......the beauty of 90% of sport is it has no boundaries.....pretty much anybody can be succesful regardless of background. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,602 Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 (edited) I think in this country especially it applies to quite a lot of sports....rugby is pretty much a northern thing,hockey is a university thing,cricket,well i dont really know who plays that but certainly football,boxing etc are the working mans sports......so i think location/upbringing plays a bigger factor than we realise. Interesting little natter anyway And whats rugby football it cant be both surely ..not a rugby fan myself but compared to them soppy yanks with half a ton of padding and crash helmets rugby must totally embarrass them. Edited July 2, 2011 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
undisputed 1,664 Posted July 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 My point being is the countries that harness the youth and improve their abilities tend to go on and dominate in their chosen sport.However we rely heavily on our kids being found or pushed on by parents with alot of money to invest.You can't tell me where you were born makes you a better sportsman (apart from some sports) alot of it boils down to the training and the conditioning you've had from a young age You say that but yes i do believe where you are raised makes a big difference in some sports......Some sports like football or boxing can lift kids out of the shit.......would Tim Henman or Andy Murray have played lawn tennis had they grown up on the Silwood Estate Bermondsey....no......would David Haye have boxed had he been brought up in a leafy Surrey suburb,probably not.......the greatest sportsmen this country have ever produced did not come from money,thats a fact......the beauty of 90% of sport is it has no boundaries.....pretty much anybody can be succesful regardless of background. And thats a shame really who knows if the next big tennis star has been over looked because of their postcode or the school they went too. Football is becoming more difficult because as somebody has already pointed out if your not over 6ft plus and able to run all day you get overlooked. Boxing is one of the truly working class sports that anyone can aspire too...well apart from snooker & darts Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,602 Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 And thats a shame really who knows if the next big tennis star has been over looked because of their postcode or the school they went too. Football is becoming more difficult because as somebody has already pointed out if your not over 6ft plus and able to run all day you get overlooked. Boxing is one of the truly working class sports that anyone can aspire too...well apart from snooker & darts A lovely ol fella who used to train boxers once said to me " every human being has a talent for something,its just finding out what it is " ....I also believe we all have a talent be it sport,entertaining,academically,whatever.......it just often never gets realised. How many naturally gifted footballers are sitting in offices not knowing it......your absolutely right Quote Link to post Share on other sites
undisputed 1,664 Posted July 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 And thats a shame really who knows if the next big tennis star has been over looked because of their postcode or the school they went too. Football is becoming more difficult because as somebody has already pointed out if your not over 6ft plus and able to run all day you get overlooked. Boxing is one of the truly working class sports that anyone can aspire too...well apart from snooker & darts A lovely ol fella who used to train boxers once said to me " every human being has a talent for something,its just finding out what it is " ....I also believe we all have a talent be it sport,entertaining,academically,whatever.......it just often never gets realised. How many naturally gifted footballers are sitting in offices not knowing it......your absolutely right And good as Murray is didn't he have to go abroad to realise that potential? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 29,237 Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 I think in this country especially it applies to quite a lot of sports....rugby is pretty much a northern thing,hockey is a university thing,cricket,well i dont really know who plays that but certainly football,boxing etc are the working mans sports......so i think location/upbringing plays a bigger factor than we realise. Interesting little natter anyway And whats rugby football it cant be both surely ..not a rugby fan myself but compared to them soppy yanks with half a ton of padding and crash helmets rugby must totally embarrass them. only a small point gnash,,, but rugby union is realy a southern thing majority of the clubs are from nottingham down to the south coast south ,,,, rugby leuge is played around yorkshire, lancs and the lakes. there are a few spill over clubs nowadays like newcastle falcons, leeds playing union,, and london halaquins having a rugby leuge team Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,602 Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 And good as Murray is didn't he have to go abroad to realise that potential? Your local leisure centre will want around 12 pound per hour for the hire of a tennis court. It costs virtually nothing to play football.....it costs virtually nothing to box........pretty self explannatory really if your 2 young 12 year old boys out for an aftenoon of sport......but potentially they could well have a talent for playing tennis. All sport should be easily accessible to all kids in any area in my opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,602 Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 (edited) only a small point gnash,,, but rugby union is realy a southern thing majority of the clubs are from nottingham down to the south coast south ,,,, rugby leuge is played around yorkshire, lancs and the lakes. there are a few spill over clubs nowadays like newcastle falcons, leeds playing union,, and london halaquins having a rugby leuge team ok i didnt know that....ive heard of London Harlequins ....isnt rugby more of a university thing,i know the ol bill love it so maybe why its not massively popular in London i dont know ...i did try to get into watching it but was far too stop start and confusing for me,got every respect for them as athletes though Edited July 2, 2011 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
undisputed 1,664 Posted July 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 And good as Murray is didn't he have to go abroad to realise that potential? Your local leisure centre will want around 12 pound per hour for the hire of a tennis court. It costs virtually nothing to play football.....it costs virtually nothing to box........pretty self explannatory really if your 2 young 12 year old boys out for an aftenoon of sport......but potentially they could well have a talent for playing tennis. All sport should be easily accessible to all kids in any area in my opinion. They could have a lot of these sports on the curiculum at schools Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 29,237 Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 And good as Murray is didn't he have to go abroad to realise that potential? Your local leisure centre will want around 12 pound per hour for the hire of a tennis court. It costs virtually nothing to play football.....it costs virtually nothing to box........pretty self explannatory really if your 2 young 12 year old boys out for an aftenoon of sport......but potentially they could well have a talent for playing tennis. All sport should be easily accessible to all kids in any area in my opinion. spot on.... i seem to remember reading somwere that our kids in secondry school do about 2 hours of sport a week excluding after school clubs,,, i think im right in saying they do double that in oz...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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