Judging at shows

[milliken 831]

margret you have to take the rough with the smooth at these shows some people like to rant and rave ie thats a greyhound raceing that dogs not worked and so on

and from time to time the judge is gonna get a bit of stick thats the way it is in every sport and a good judge just laughs it of because deep down he knows that most of them would never put themselfs forword to run a show or judge a show for fear of being on the receiving end

keep or chin up ill see you both on sunday

 

all the best robert

[gonetoearth 5,144]

you have to be thick skinned to judge shows -- just do your best and judge whats in front of you .. do it fairly give each dog the same amount of time even if its shite the owners paid for you to judge it properly ..if i`ve had 2 dogs that i struggle to split i explain why i have -- ask all the right questions - set yourself a routine and stick to it take as much time as you need -- dont be rushed switch off from whats going on outside the ring -- dont be influenced by comments from outside the ring --- heard it all before the black uns the best in here ..i always send the ones i dont want out the ring with a thank you ..dont judge mates dogs none of mine will show under me or me them ...i always dress smartly shirt n tie i think it sets you apart .. always remember what you`ve judged in case they come up again in a differant class i had it once when i put a russell pup in any type of puppy 4-6 months i came 2nd behind another russell the very next class any age russell pup up to 12 months i won it and beat the dog that had just beat me .. it happens when thrs a lot of classes ... if anyones unsure about judgeing first time try and get in the ring with an experianced judge or judge a couple of child handling classes .. watch the judge at a couple of shows and see thr style -- and dont knock it till you`ve tried it .. first time i judged i done 20 fags and had 3 vists to the loo before the show had started ... give it go

all good advise stig nothings changed in all the years they still moan about the things they moaned about thirty od years ago

i stood and watched yesterday as an old hand judged the enterd class every terrier got inspection head to tail eyes mouth stance . walk etc ,

with a life time in terriers the man gave every terrier the same time and respect , asked the ones he wanted for the line up then thanked

the rest , if people spend the time and money to turn up wether their pride and joy works or is a pet they all should get the same attention

the judge on the day deserves the same respect they turn up for no gain some get a bit of petrol money or a bottle, wether you agree or disagree on the out come he is the judge on the day , on another thred on here some one said he only goes to shows were he knows the judge , these shows are for fund raising etc if you take them that serious go and get a pedigee

Edited June 6, 2011 by gonetoearth

[Welsh Dragon 73]

you have to be thick skinned to judge shows -- just do your best and judge whats in front of you .. do it fairly give each dog the same amount of time even if its shite the owners paid for you to judge it properly ..if i`ve had 2 dogs that i struggle to split i explain why i have -- ask all the right questions - set yourself a routine and stick to it take as much time as you need -- dont be rushed switch off from whats going on outside the ring -- dont be influenced by comments from outside the ring --- heard it all before the black uns the best in here ..i always send the ones i dont want out the ring with a thank you ..dont judge mates dogs none of mine will show under me or me them ...i always dress smartly shirt n tie i think it sets you apart .. always remember what you`ve judged in case they come up again in a differant class i had it once when i put a russell pup in any type of puppy 4-6 months i came 2nd behind another russell the very next class any age russell pup up to 12 months i won it and beat the dog that had just beat me .. it happens when thrs a lot of classes ... if anyones unsure about judgeing first time try and get in the ring with an experianced judge or judge a couple of child handling classes .. watch the judge at a couple of shows and see thr style -- and dont knock it till you`ve tried it .. first time i judged i done 20 fags and had 3 vists to the loo before the show had started ... give it go

all good advise stig nothings changed in all the years they still moan about the things they moaned about thirty od years ago

i stood and watched yesterday as an old hand judged the enterd class every terrier got inspection head to tail eyes mouth stance . walk etc ,

with a life time in terriers the man gave every terrier the same time and respect , asked the ones he wanted for the line up then thanked

the rest , if people spend the time and money to turn up wether their pride and joy works or is a pet they all should get the same attention

the judge on the day deserves the same respect they turn up for no gain some get a bit of petrol money or a bottle, wether you agree or disagree on the out come he is the judge on the day , on another thred on here some one said he only goes to shows were he knows the judge , these shows are for fund raising etc if you take them that serious go and get a pedigee

Well said gonetoearth

[sandymere 8,263]

I would agree it is an honour and a privelege to be asked to be a Judge. My husband John Mc Stay has judged Whippets at Donemana and Dunsilly, and he was so proud tobe asked to do so.John judges the dog and not the person, and in his own words, it is his way of giving back something to the dog shows for all the enjoyment we have got from them over this many years, to many to mention.We have had many very sad times in our married life,through sickness, ill health and knocks in life generally, and only for the dog shows and our faithful whippets and lurchers, and our many good friends in the Canine world as an outlet and something to look forward to at the end of a very dark tunnell,we probably would have went under.When Mr Cancer knocks on your door,you look at life differently. Somebody on this forum a few nights ago called John a cross dresser, because he took the whippet from me after I won the ladies handling class in Florencecourt and showed it for me in the final.If that gentleman only new the reason behind that he may not of been so quick to make fun of the situation. I was a cancer sufferer, and sometimes my back gives up as a result of 5 major operations and sometimes John has to take over from me in the shows.I love showing my dogs , but occasionally life dictates to me, and I have to obey it.This was one of those times.I am so glad to be alive and thank god for every day I live on this earth.Without Johns help and kindness to me,I could not of got through it. A smiling face can hide a lifetime.

 

So please stop knocking these good people on this forum,who give up their time to organise and work tirelessley to try and make these shows a roaring success.If you have nothing good to say about them, then say nothing at all.So many families just live for these shows, the photographs and the memories and the pride of seeing their dogs winning, whether they hunt or not,it doesent matter.It doesent say on the advertisement sheet "Dont come if your dog doesent hunt". Think sometime how much heartache you can cause people with these hurtful comments.Follow the example of these good people and many many more who are willing to give up their time (Tango and Milliken for example)to make your day enjoyable. Wake up and smell the roses,and see the good in people for a change because life can change so quick,beleive me from one who has been down that road..

 

Margaret Mc Stay

A moving piece but sorry I’m a little lost, has there been a derogatory post about you or your husband? If so perhaps a reply directly to the post would be an idea otherwise it’s a bit general about judging.

 

In general the idea that we should never criticise a judge is a little unfair to those who enter classes. I’ve seen very good judges but alas also a few that were awful, even judging and placing their own dogs on the day. We need to be able to criticise at times or the awful ones will become the norm. Already there is a split happening with lines being bred purely for shows which can only be to the detriment of the lurcher.

[the_stig 6,614]

you have to be thick skinned to judge shows -- just do your best and judge whats in front of you .. do it fairly give each dog the same amount of time even if its shite the owners paid for you to judge it properly ..if i`ve had 2 dogs that i struggle to split i explain why i have -- ask all the right questions - set yourself a routine and stick to it take as much time as you need -- dont be rushed switch off from whats going on outside the ring -- dont be influenced by comments from outside the ring --- heard it all before the black uns the best in here ..i always send the ones i dont want out the ring with a thank you ..dont judge mates dogs none of mine will show under me or me them ...i always dress smartly shirt n tie i think it sets you apart .. always remember what you`ve judged in case they come up again in a differant class i had it once when i put a russell pup in any type of puppy 4-6 months i came 2nd behind another russell the very next class any age russell pup up to 12 months i won it and beat the dog that had just beat me .. it happens when thrs a lot of classes ... if anyones unsure about judgeing first time try and get in the ring with an experianced judge or judge a couple of child handling classes .. watch the judge at a couple of shows and see thr style -- and dont knock it till you`ve tried it .. first time i judged i done 20 fags and had 3 vists to the loo before the show had started ... give it go

all good advise stig nothings changed in all the years they still moan about the things they moaned about thirty od years ago

i stood and watched yesterday as an old hand judged the enterd class every terrier got inspection head to tail eyes mouth stance . walk etc ,

with a life time in terriers the man gave every terrier the same time and respect , asked the ones he wanted for the line up then thanked

the rest , if people spend the time and money to turn up wether their pride and joy works or is a pet they all should get the same attention

the judge on the day deserves the same respect they turn up for no gain some get a bit of petrol money or a bottle, wether you agree or disagree on the out come he is the judge on the day , on another thred on here some one said he only goes to shows were he knows the judge , these shows are for fund raising etc if you take them that serious go and get a pedigee

gto -- i had a dog with only one decended won 14 shows in 3 year only 3 judges picked up on it one womam judge remarked he had small testicles

[gonetoearth 5,144]

you have to be thick skinned to judge shows -- just do your best and judge whats in front of you .. do it fairly give each dog the same amount of time even if its shite the owners paid for you to judge it properly ..if i`ve had 2 dogs that i struggle to split i explain why i have -- ask all the right questions - set yourself a routine and stick to it take as much time as you need -- dont be rushed switch off from whats going on outside the ring -- dont be influenced by comments from outside the ring --- heard it all before the black uns the best in here ..i always send the ones i dont want out the ring with a thank you ..dont judge mates dogs none of mine will show under me or me them ...i always dress smartly shirt n tie i think it sets you apart .. always remember what you`ve judged in case they come up again in a differant class i had it once when i put a russell pup in any type of puppy 4-6 months i came 2nd behind another russell the very next class any age russell pup up to 12 months i won it and beat the dog that had just beat me .. it happens when thrs a lot of classes ... if anyones unsure about judgeing first time try and get in the ring with an experianced judge or judge a couple of child handling classes .. watch the judge at a couple of shows and see thr style -- and dont knock it till you`ve tried it .. first time i judged i done 20 fags and had 3 vists to the loo before the show had started ... give it go

all good advise stig nothings changed in all the years they still moan about the things they moaned about thirty od years ago

i stood and watched yesterday as an old hand judged the enterd class every terrier got inspection head to tail eyes mouth stance . walk etc ,

with a life time in terriers the man gave every terrier the same time and respect , asked the ones he wanted for the line up then thanked

the rest , if people spend the time and money to turn up wether their pride and joy works or is a pet they all should get the same attention

the judge on the day deserves the same respect they turn up for no gain some get a bit of petrol money or a bottle, wether you agree or disagree on the out come he is the judge on the day , on another thred on here some one said he only goes to shows were he knows the judge , these shows are for fund raising etc if you take them that serious go and get a pedigee

gto -- i had a dog with only one decended won 14 shows in 3 year only 3 judges picked up on it one womam judge remarked he had small testicles

did she make any comment on yours

[the_stig 6,614]

you have to be thick skinned to judge shows -- just do your best and judge whats in front of you .. do it fairly give each dog the same amount of time even if its shite the owners paid for you to judge it properly ..if i`ve had 2 dogs that i struggle to split i explain why i have -- ask all the right questions - set yourself a routine and stick to it take as much time as you need -- dont be rushed switch off from whats going on outside the ring -- dont be influenced by comments from outside the ring --- heard it all before the black uns the best in here ..i always send the ones i dont want out the ring with a thank you ..dont judge mates dogs none of mine will show under me or me them ...i always dress smartly shirt n tie i think it sets you apart .. always remember what you`ve judged in case they come up again in a differant class i had it once when i put a russell pup in any type of puppy 4-6 months i came 2nd behind another russell the very next class any age russell pup up to 12 months i won it and beat the dog that had just beat me .. it happens when thrs a lot of classes ... if anyones unsure about judgeing first time try and get in the ring with an experianced judge or judge a couple of child handling classes .. watch the judge at a couple of shows and see thr style -- and dont knock it till you`ve tried it .. first time i judged i done 20 fags and had 3 vists to the loo before the show had started ... give it go

all good advise stig nothings changed in all the years they still moan about the things they moaned about thirty od years ago

i stood and watched yesterday as an old hand judged the enterd class every terrier got inspection head to tail eyes mouth stance . walk etc ,

with a life time in terriers the man gave every terrier the same time and respect , asked the ones he wanted for the line up then thanked

the rest , if people spend the time and money to turn up wether their pride and joy works or is a pet they all should get the same attention

the judge on the day deserves the same respect they turn up for no gain some get a bit of petrol money or a bottle, wether you agree or disagree on the out come he is the judge on the day , on another thred on here some one said he only goes to shows were he knows the judge , these shows are for fund raising etc if you take them that serious go and get a pedigee

gto -- i had a dog with only one decended won 14 shows in 3 year only 3 judges picked up on it one womam judge remarked he had small testicles

did she make any comment on yours

she would`nt have been able to span mine -- small hands

Edited June 8, 2011 by the_stig