brock 11 Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 maybe a question for the irish lads,what hare would you say is the best test,irish hare or brown hare,i was always led to believe that the brown hare was much stronger and a better test than the irish hare,is this correct?whats your comments? Quote Link to post
snoopdog 1,256 Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 never coarsed a red hare or irish hare but iam led to belive the brown hare is a much more athletic and harder to catch...... Quote Link to post
brock 11 Posted February 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 what is a red hare,never heard of one? Quote Link to post
snoopdog 1,256 Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 its just another term for the irish hare as they are more of a redy colour than our hares ..they are not red i know but theres a hint of ginger in them.. Quote Link to post
Guest borderboys Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 by mistake dont quite follow Quote Link to post
BRAN 0 Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 This has been vaguely addressed before, but here is my hat in the ring. Hunted them both, the major difference is escape routes, and obstacles. In Ireland you have twice as many obstacles, gates, sheepwire, roads, blackthorn ditches. A dog needs to be quick thinking with good gears, game as a badger and be able use it's brain. In england it seems to be a war of attrition, where there are little obstacles (on the fens anyway) and where big lung and sheer grit seems to be the winning combination. Six of one half of dozen of the other. Quote Link to post
steve109 43 Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 what is a red hare,never heard of one? its what you see when youv had too much drinky poos Quote Link to post
squirreltail 15 Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 I was under that impression but the Irish hare is as big as our hare and just as agile , if not more than our British hare. Coursed a few in County Meath end of last year.Boggy ground but can they run wow. This has been vaguely addressed before, but here is my hat in the ring. Hunted them both, the major difference is escape routes, and obstacles. In Ireland you have twice as many obstacles, gates, sheepwire, roads, blackthorn ditches. A dog needs to be quick thinking with good gears, game as a badger and be able use it's brain. In england it seems to be a war of attrition, where there are little obstacles (on the fens anyway) and where big lung and sheer grit seems to be the winning combination. Six of one half of dozen of the other. You want to come down to Kent mate,Ireland was a doddle compared to here, flints bramble hills hedges woods barbed and sheep wire motorways everything you can imagine, it takes a great dog to course anything around us. Quote Link to post
Guest Frank Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 This has been vaguely addressed before, but here is my hat in the ring. Hunted them both, the major difference is escape routes, and obstacles. In Ireland you have twice as many obstacles, gates, sheepwire, roads, blackthorn ditches. A dog needs to be quick thinking with good gears, game as a badger and be able use it's brain. In england it seems to be a war of attrition, where there are little obstacles (on the fens anyway) and where big lung and sheer grit seems to be the winning combination. Six of one half of dozen of the other. Totally agree. Frank. Quote Link to post
macker 5 Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 This has been vaguely addressed before, but here is my hat in the ring. Hunted them both, the major difference is escape routes, and obstacles. In Ireland you have twice as many obstacles, gates, sheepwire, roads, blackthorn ditches. A dog needs to be quick thinking with good gears, game as a badger and be able use it's brain. In england it seems to be a war of attrition, where there are little obstacles (on the fens anyway) and where big lung and sheer grit seems to be the winning combination. Six of one half of dozen of the other. very good reply too many roads on our small ireland Quote Link to post
snoopdog 1,256 Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 its tricky round where i live to theres alot of walls hedges tuft grass ditches the lot really i live in lancashire in the penines..i personaly think the obstcials cause the hare to make mistakes ..where as the fen i.e. or the big fields like thirsk and southport they dont make mistakes ie harder to catch...jmo....most hares in small fields are caught near a fence or wall or ditch ... Quote Link to post
BRAN 0 Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 Don't doubt it mate about kent. Think the hare is ultimate running quarry, seen them take dogs over quarries, main roads , sew dogs through five five strand electric wire, smack bang through herds of cattle. One went through a five bar gate across a motorway, through another gate, dog through some fluke of nature made it across motorway intact through gate just as he reached the hare it went through another gate at the bottom of the same field and back across same motorway! Closed my eyes and gritted my teeth expecting the big bang, opened them to see the dog cruising on the scent and no hare nowhere to be seen. Put him on the lead and hit the road thanking my lucky stars. A hare is a hare no matter where he is. Quote Link to post
brookie 1,193 Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 This has been vaguely addressed before, but here is my hat in the ring. Hunted them both, the major difference is escape routes, and obstacles. In Ireland you have twice as many obstacles, gates, sheepwire, roads, blackthorn ditches. A dog needs to be quick thinking with good gears, game as a badger and be able use it's brain. In england it seems to be a war of attrition, where there are little obstacles (on the fens anyway) and where big lung and sheer grit seems to be the winning combination. Six of one half of dozen of the other. very good reply too many roads on our small ireland no contest ive coursed em both the irish hare is like a good rabbit the english hare is far far better Quote Link to post
Guest freestate hunter cfc Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 I to have hunted them both,here in ireland lots of escape routes takes a very brave dog with a bit of pace and good lung.Last week kilt a european brown {ireland}must have been introduced thats the second iv kilt the first one was about 8 or 9 years ago about 20 miles from were i got the second one, to tell the truth they were both kilt handy but on the fens they can go.We have had hunts that go on for four and five mins and i rekcon they are both an equall athletic animal weighing about the same. Quote Link to post
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