darkangelwitch 0 Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 I have just acquired a 1 year old Patterdale (from a dog rescue) and indoors he is an angel, house trained, affectionate and dog friendly (I have 2 other rescue dogs). However, outdoors is a different matter. Both on and off the lead all he wants to do is chase and hunt (on the lead he screams when he sees prey and I am sure the neighbours think I am killing him). Off the lead if he gets a scent he is off like a rocket and because the previous owner did not work on recall he just will not come back until he is exhausted. We have managed to get him to respond "occasionally" to a squeaky ball closely followed by a tasty treat BUT his hunting instincs are very strong and I would really appreciate some tips and advice on how to focus and harness his instincs. I am not a hunter myself but would be willing to do anything to give my little Patterdale a great life and if his hunting instincts are that good then I would consider joining someone if they would be willing to help me train him correctly. I really do not want him to end up getting lost and picked up as a stray again so if anyone out there in Surrey or West Sussex (I live near Gatwick airport) would like to help me train this little monster sign up below Quote Link to post
foxfan 479 Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 Jaysus, give him to me !! Quote Link to post
darkangelwitch 0 Posted March 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 Jaysus, give him to me !! No chance mate, this little dog is staying with me even it if means I do take up hunting just to keep him happy Quote Link to post
shepp 2,285 Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 Have you a photo of him? Quote Link to post
darkangelwitch 0 Posted March 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 Have you a photo of him? How about this one cute or what! Doesn't really show what the little monster is really like (he is very good at doing the cute thing) Quote Link to post
OldNog 432 Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 (edited) should of got a yorkie instead of a working breed if you wanted a quite lap dog Edited March 3, 2011 by OldNog Quote Link to post
darkangelwitch 0 Posted March 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 should of got a yorkie instead of a working breed if you wanted a quite lap dog Doh! If I had wanted a lap dog then I would have got one, I am not a novice dog owner - just a novice Patterdale owner - I came to this forum for serious advice not sarky comments - and I thought someone would actually be able to give me some sensible help Quote Link to post
OldNog 432 Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 should of got a yorkie instead of a working breed if you wanted a quite lap dog Doh! If I had wanted a lap dog then I would have got one, I am not a novice dog owner - just a novice Patterdale owner - I came to this forum for serious advice not sarky comments - and I thought someone would actually be able to give me some sensible help sarky remarks...welcome to THL Quote Link to post
cdnhastings 23 Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 should of got a yorkie instead of a working breed if you wanted a quite lap dog Doh! If I had wanted a lap dog then I would have got one, I am not a novice dog owner - just a novice Patterdale owner - I came to this forum for serious advice not sarky comments - and I thought someone would actually be able to give me some sensible help sarky remarks...welcome to THL you are going to take up digging to keep the terrier happy? I think your intentions are good, but imo if this isn't your passion I don't see it working out for long. that said best of luck. As for the dog getting picked up as stray , collar that terrier with all your info on it. and while you are out getting that taken care of, get yourself a shovel, a spade, a locator collar, a first aid kit, some permissions, and the list goes on and on. A hunting dog is best satisfied with lots and lots of hunting. Quote Link to post
darkangelwitch 0 Posted March 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 should of got a yorkie instead of a working breed if you wanted a quite lap dog Doh! If I had wanted a lap dog then I would have got one, I am not a novice dog owner - just a novice Patterdale owner - I came to this forum for serious advice not sarky comments - and I thought someone would actually be able to give me some sensible help sarky remarks...welcome to THL you are going to take up digging to keep the terrier happy? I think your intentions are good, but imo if this isn't your passion I don't see it working out for long. that said best of luck. As for the dog getting picked up as stray , collar that terrier with all your info on it. and while you are out getting that taken care of, get yourself a shovel, a spade, a locator collar, a first aid kit, some permissions, and the list goes on and on. A hunting dog is best satisfied with lots and lots of hunting. I can see your point and I know I sound like a 'townie' but that comes from too many years working having to work in an office. My brother is a gunmaker and goes out shooting himself and both my parents hunted when they were alive. The point of joining this forum was to try and get some 'expert' advice on how best to train this dog - he has good instincts and if I have to learn with him then that is what I will do. It is never too late to start something new and I do not give up easily. What I don't want is for this amazing terrier to end up a frustrated lap dog - that is not what he is (by the way that photo was taken the first night we had him two weeks ago). I may be of the ummm 'older' generation but should that stop me learning how do to something new? I don't think so - bring it on - me and him are gonna make an awesome team, you just watch us! Quote Link to post
ashleybee 7 Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 Don't mean to add to the bad news but IMHO you won't ever get that dog to come back while its in hunting mode, its got a lot of prey drve EXACTLY how a terrier should be and all the hunting in the world won't make it listen you any more. Sorry but thats the world of terriers I know I have one exactly the same but he's a worker and kenneled. If you want to be able to let him off the lead try and find a secure field or park. As said above if your going to give him the work he needs you'll need a locator a spade and some permission. Just out of interest where did he come from? Quote Link to post
darkangelwitch 0 Posted March 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 Don't mean to add to the bad news but IMHO you won't ever get that dog to come back while its in hunting mode, its got a lot of prey drve EXACTLY how a terrier should be and all the hunting in the world won't make it listen you any more. Sorry but thats the world of terriers I know I have one exactly the same but he's a worker and kenneled. If you want to be able to let him off the lead try and find a secure field or park. As said above if your going to give him the work he needs you'll need a locator a spade and some permission. Just out of interest where did he come from? Finally someone answered a question As to where he came from, he was found as a stray in scotland, re-homed to a lady who thought she was getting a lap dog and after 6 weeks she sent him back because he ragged the lead and growled at her when she picked him up but I think it is more likely he would not come back when she called him and was not willing to put in the work with him. I certainly will look into getting a locator, spade and permissions and if I can't find a mentor to help train me (let alone the dog) I will have to work it out myself . I know I am going to be open to a lot of ribbing on this forum but I am a tough cookie, if I wasn't I would not have taken this terrier on. Quote Link to post
Dunkanon 380 Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 Fair play to you for wanting to give the dog what he wants, which is work, my terriers wont come on recall either when they are on the scent, any other time no bother, but hey there hunting dogs. the dog sounds very keen and chances are he will eventually find something and go to ground. So either get a locator collar/box or keep him on the lead. if your lucky you might meet someone local to you that works terriers and again if your lucky they might let you accompany them on a dig, unlikely but possible. Anyway good luck with the tyke. atb Quote Link to post
morton 5,369 Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 Adapt the dogs working lifestyle to a form of hunting that will best suit you,make yourself aware of possible pitfalls and conflicts of interest.I hope you receive the right help and encouragement with your dog,be mindful that you may have to prove your credentials to receive the assistance you ask for,all the best. Quote Link to post
darkangelwitch 0 Posted March 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 (edited) Fair play to you for wanting to give the dog what he wants, which is work, my terriers wont come on recall either when they are on the scent, any other time no bother, but hey there hunting dogs. the dog sounds very keen and chances are he will eventually find something and go to ground. So either get a locator collar/box or keep him on the lead. if your lucky you might meet someone local to you that works terriers and again if your lucky they might let you accompany them on a dig, unlikely but possible. Anyway good luck with the tyke. atb Thanks Dunkanon, I will certainly look into getting a locator in case he does go to ground and its actually a relief to know he is not the only one not to come on recall. I will try to find someone local to me to see if they will let me join them on a dig, he is very keen and it would be a shame to waste natural instincts like that. And thank you too Morton, I realise it is not going to be easy but I am as stubborn as he is so hopefully I will find someone willing to teach both of us Edited March 3, 2011 by darkangelwitch Quote Link to post
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