baffled

[NATACC 18]

just wondering where all the old type lurchers have gone lurchers capable of taking all manner of quarry not knocking any ones preferred breed but bit sick of seeing bullx salukix all the time wheres the good well bred rough coated lurchers of old

[fordie 8]

You tell me NATACC people today breed sh**t to make money there a few good dogs out there with good lurchermen but not many

[NATACC 18]

You tell me NATACC people today breed sh**t to make money there a few good dogs out there with good lurchermen but not many

not looking yet but where are these dogs bit annoying [bANNED TEXT] your geniune and struggle to get something good

[fordie 8]

I onley have Collie x Deerhound x and Bedlington x this type of lurchers are old type it like im saying it all to do with money making

[KittleRox 2,147]

i think there is too much expectation from what people want from their dogs, just look at the topics,4 out of five hares, how big a bag in one night,you know feckall unless you,ve been on big lands,it,s all alot of shite and can,t be arsed with it.

some people exspect to much,and the dogs get passed from pillar to post.alot of thesedogs would probably make good allround lurchers if time and patience was used in training them.not having ago at the coursing men/women, i enjoy a good chase,just my opinion.

[NATACC 18]

i think there is too much expectation from what people want from their dogs, just look at the topics,4 out of five hares, how big a bag in one night,you know feckall unless you,ve been on big lands,it,s all alot of shite and can,t be arsed with it.

some people exspect to much,and the dogs get passed from pillar to post.alot of thesedogs would probably make good allround lurchers if time and patience was used in training them.not having ago at the coursing men/women, i enjoy a good chase,just my opinion.

not into big bags just bringing a bit home to feed the ferrets and dog but i like a varied bag

[morton 5,369]

I keep collie/greyhound-deerhound/greyhound types. True allrounders,do a bit of everything. Looked about for years for this type to line my bitch[found a dog by accident]. I only breed a litter to replace the old bitch, she had 11 pups, i left her with five, 2 for myself[3 where ordered,two weeks before they where due to go he cocked on them-messer].

[Ideation 8,217]

There are plenty out there and plenty of them are good, just because they dont come up on this site much means f**k all.

[jigsaw 11,902]

It seems to me the FUN is gone from hunting with most people,HUNTING WAS MEANT TO BE FUN,as well as a way of carrying out effiecent pest control.I have Salukis as well as a kelpie,and I dont care if it can kill 8 out of 8 or not,once it tries its best and catches a decent % of its quarry then Im happy.This buisness it seems to me has goten very serious,too much emphasis on how many in one night etc.I enjoy reading about good bags of varied game but given a chance and in the right hands most dogs can become decent enough hunting companions.I know of a few blokes that have a different dog every 6 months,I just cant understand it personally.Natacc surely if you buy a pup from decent lines,and I bought dogs from decent stuff off of this site,you turn it into whatever you want,or are your expectations that high there isnt a dog born yet to meet yer standard Im not critisising but its not too hard to get a fairly decent dog.

Edited September 4, 2010 by jigsaw

[Ideation 8,217]

It seems to me the FUN is gone from hunting with most people,HUNTING WAS MEANT TO BE FUN,as well as a way of carrying out effiecent pest control.I have Salukis as well as a kelpie,and I dont care if it can kill 8 out of 8 or not,once it tries its best and catches a decent % of its quarry then Im happy.This buisness it seems to me has goten very serious,too much emphasis on how many in one night etc.I enjoy reading about good bags of varied game but given a chance and in the right hands most dogs can become decent enough hunting companions.I know of a few blokes that have a different dog every 6 months,I just cant understand it personally.Natacc surely if you buy a pup from decent lines,and I bought dogs from decent stuff off of this site,you turn it into whatever you want,or are your expectations that high there isnt a dog born yet to meet yer standard Im not critisising but its not too hard to get a fairly decent dog.

 

 

And to feed yourself and your family. . . . .

 

Your right though, the hunting world is now a very sad one. We have been flooded with ignorant people, aggressive people . . . people doing it for all the wrong reasons. They are not hunters, not part of the countryside. . . . they bring shame on all of us. Most of them are children or men with the minds of children and are none too bright. They want a machine, a numbers machine, a killing machine. You hear shit on here 'i'm off to kill some stuff tonight', 'we are the killing crew', 'i've had loads of dogs . . . . in 2 years' it goes on. Many many of the people who keep running dogs just dont have the ability to sync and bond with an animal, to see the beauty in watching your dog work regardless of the bag, rather than just counting and thinking about what your going to tell your mates. . . . no wait you dont have to tell them anything, all 6 of them with their 12 dogs are there in the field with you.

 

Before all this. . . . one man, one dog. . . . . folk rarely told anyone what the dog caught. .. . . it was a secret between man and beast and as long as it was enough to feed the kids. . . thats what mattered.

[jigsaw 11,902]

Spot on Ideation,its all about bragging now.a lot of the peolpe dont understand how to let a dog do his own thing,learn for itself with a little input from its owner.Its all macho bullsh+t now.A lot glorify killing their prey,which it was never about in the first place.Yeah to be a sucessfull hunter you must kill but not go and brag about it in the pub.In the past hunting was a way of feeding yourself,your family and your friends/neighbours.You took what youd need and then return when necessary again.I heard of a well known lamping man from our side boasting of killing 60+ rabbits in one night and he brought back 20.He left the rest in the ditch,I thought ''GOD HELP US ALL''I dont know maybe im just a crank

[toby1066 413]

no mate your not a crank thats a total waste to kill them and leave them they could be dog or ferret food for some body

[weasle 1,119]

There are plenty of good dogs around,that are able to deal with what comes along.It just takes a bit of effort to find them,personally i would rather find a genuine hunting lad,who is breeding a litter from a bitch who has served him well,and who has found the best dog available,to replace the bitch.Than go looking for one of the legends.This site is a bit of fun,good for a bit of banter,but i feel sorry for beginers,who must feel there dogs are useless,because it cannot take 4 foxs every night,or five out of five hares,infact it probally couldnt even turn a fen hare,and if it hasnt got bull blood,minshaw breed,or some other big name,its not even worth taking the dog out.The type of dog you are looking for are out there but you will not find the lads that have them shouting about them,if that was there nature they wouldnt keep that type of dog.

[richie198 28]

There are plenty of good dogs around,that are able to deal with what comes along.It just takes a bit of effort to find them,personally i would rather find a genuine hunting lad,who is breeding a litter from a bitch who has served him well,and who has found the best dog available,to replace the bitch.Than go looking for one of the legends.This site is a bit of fun,good for a bit of banter,but i feel sorry for beginers,who must feel there dogs are useless,because it cannot take 4 foxs every night,or five out of five hares,infact it probally couldnt even turn a fen hare,and if it hasnt got bull blood,minshaw breed,or some other big name,its not even worth taking the dog out.The type of dog you are looking for are out there but you will not find the lads that have them shouting about them,if that was there nature they wouldnt keep that type of dog.

 

spot on weasle why does everyone feel they need to tell the whole world about

their killing machines if they are that good its quiet they should be keeping

not bragging to the world cause thast one way to get a dog stolen.

[NATACC 18]

There are plenty of good dogs around,that are able to deal with what comes along.It just takes a bit of effort to find them,personally i would rather find a genuine hunting lad,who is breeding a litter from a bitch who has served him well,and who has found the best dog available,to replace the bitch.Than go looking for one of the legends.This site is a bit of fun,good for a bit of banter,but i feel sorry for beginers,who must feel there dogs are useless,because it cannot take 4 foxs every night,or five out of five hares,infact it probally couldnt even turn a fen hare,and if it hasnt got bull blood,minshaw breed,or some other big name,its not even worth taking the dog out.The type of dog you are looking for are out there but you will not find the lads that have them shouting about them,if that was there nature they wouldnt keep that type of dog.

thats the problem you cant get these dogs because they think your a messer went out last night one hare one rabbit and dog took a bite and pulled away first one its ever seen never mind it doesnt matter im happy just being out with my mate another geniune lurcher man the thing is how do you know if the dog is geniune if you cant get to see them like you say too many people breeding rubbish then bragging it up to make the sale i do like the sound of deer grey x collie grey good dogs awhile ago