Ideation 8,217 Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 (edited) Those piccies don't look frosty Okay, heres a couple of newbie question for yaw'l and its genuine as I am a newbie to ferreting, So new I've only got the hutch, food and two ferts with a reserved tag on them. I heard somewhere the other day that if a Jill is in season and she aint getting humped by a hob she will need an injection to bring her out of season (wish it was like that with women! far less grief I'm sure) and if she does not get it she is likely to die? Is the bit about her dying genuine? How old is a Jill likely to come into season and how many times a year is she likely to do so? Also How much is a vet likely to charge to snip a Hobs nuts and how old should he be before doing so (the hob that is, not the vet lol)? And finally why is there a season for ferreting? surely they would be just as good during the summer? (possibly to do with them killing young bunnies down the warren?) Phantom Alright mate - the thing is jills can stay in season unless taken out and although people will argue about this is is generally accepted that it is not good for her health. My advice would be to use a vac hob rather than the jab as it has less mental/hormonal ill effects. By using a vac hob she gets all the fun but no babies. Costs about 50/60 quid to have him vac'd. Jills will have their first season in the spring/summer following their birth (at 1 yr old) and will usually do so once a year. Most folk ferret between september (or after 1st frosts) and march (or when they start seeing a lot of young) the reasons for most are - killing next years 'sport', the hassle of digging to nests of kits, the fact that most holes now have the cover grown up over them, it's too hot for you and the ferrets, there are more efficient ways at this time of year. Another reason is that the animals, meat and fur wise are in their prime during winter. Edited August 5, 2010 by Ideation 1 Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,217 Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 Exactly like that but much much colder. Remember having to take flasks of hot water to melt the ground a bit to get the pegs in! This is Pembrokeshire, we don't do frost! I don't mean we don't get out when it's cold, but we genuinely don't get that much frost! We had a bit last year, but those photo's are from before that. Here we seem to do frozen polar wastes now Nothing like ferreting in snow blizards! Quote Link to post
stealthy1 3,964 Posted August 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 The season is an old hat thing to do with only eating rabbit with an R in the month The jill dieing if not mated is a suject open to debate, it is 100% plausable, but most folk dont want to risk it with their prized animals, and considering it takes two years to get your ferrets in top gear, would you risk it I had my hob snipped for £38, but wound up with 31 kits this year anyway, not my fault though, hope it works this year, or the vets getting castrated this time Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 Thanks for that Ideation Boy Scout SP awarded Phantom Quote Link to post
Malt 379 Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 (edited) Those piccies don't look frosty Okay, heres a couple of newbie question for yaw'l and its genuine as I am a newbie to ferreting, So new I've only got the hutch, food and two ferts with a reserved tag on them. I heard somewhere the other day that if a Jill is in season and she aint getting humped by a hob she will need an injection to bring her out of season (wish it was like that with women! far less grief I'm sure) and if she does not get it she is likely to die? Is the bit about her dying genuine? How old is a Jill likely to come into season and how many times a year is she likely to do so? Also How much is a vet likely to charge to snip a Hobs nuts and how old should he be before doing so (the hob that is, not the vet lol)? And finally why is there a season for ferreting? surely they would be just as good during the summer? (possibly to do with them killing young bunnies down the warren?) Phantom This is a myth. A ferrets reproductive system is linked to the weather. They go into extended season, they don't come out of it until they've been mated or the weather has become too cold for breeding. The best way to do this is with a vasectomised hob, or to get them injected with a hormone from the vet. My jill jabs cost around a fiver each when I had them done this spring. A jill can be left in season until the winter, but you then run a higher risk of them picking up an infection so you have to be extra thorough with your cleaning regime and keep a close eye on the ferrets well-being. There are other possible health considerations, which others can debate if they want to.. They come into their first season after their first winter, and may come back into season after being taken out depending on a few factors. (Sunlight, temperature.) All depends on your vet! Purely for the reason you stated, and most lads like to give their quarry a bit of time off for sporting reasons & respect. All of the above is just my take on it, and may be subject to discussion by others with different views! Edited August 5, 2010 by maltenby Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 The season is an old hat thing to do with only eating rabbit with an R in the month The jill dieing if not mated is a suject open to debate, it is 100% plausable, but most folk dont want to risk it with their prized animals, and considering it takes two years to get your ferrets in top gear, would you risk it I had my hob snipped for £38, but wound up with 31 kits this year anyway, not my fault though, hope it works this year, or the vets getting castrated this time Thanks Buddy I think you should have castrated the vet anyway, I would have Phantom Quote Link to post
stealthy1 3,964 Posted August 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 Those piccies don't look frosty Okay, heres a couple of newbie question for yaw'l and its genuine as I am a newbie to ferreting, So new I've only got the hutch, food and two ferts with a reserved tag on them. I heard somewhere the other day that if a Jill is in season and she aint getting humped by a hob she will need an injection to bring her out of season (wish it was like that with women! far less grief I'm sure) and if she does not get it she is likely to die? Is the bit about her dying genuine? How old is a Jill likely to come into season and how many times a year is she likely to do so? Also How much is a vet likely to charge to snip a Hobs nuts and how old should he be before doing so (the hob that is, not the vet lol)? And finally why is there a season for ferreting? surely they would be just as good during the summer? (possibly to do with them killing young bunnies down the warren?) Phantom This is a myth. A ferrets reproductive system is linked to the weather. They go into extended season, they don't come out of it until they've been mated or the weather has become too cold for breeding. The best way to do this is with a vasectomised hob, or to get them injected with a hormone from the vet. My jill jabs cost around a fiver each when I had them done this spring. A jill can be left in season until the winter, but you then run a higher risk of them picking up an infection so you have to be extra thorough with your cleaning regime and keep a close eye on the ferrets well-being. There are other possible health considerations, which others can debate if they want to.. They come into their first season after their first winter, and may come back into season after being taken out depending on a few factors. (Sunlight, temperature.) All depends on your vet! Purely for the reason you stated, and most lads like to give their quarry a bit of time off for sporting reasons & respect. All of the above is just my take on it, and may be subject to discussion by others with different views! What has Phantom started Quote Link to post
tb25 4,627 Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 some sound advise there lads Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 Thank you Mal, Those were just a few of the questions I've been thinking of and the ones that were playing on my mind. I wonder if I could get the vasectomy for the Hob done at the PDSA? Phantom Quote Link to post
stealthy1 3,964 Posted August 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 Thank you Mal, Those were just a few of the questions I've been thinking of and the ones that were playing on my mind. I wonder if I could get the vasectomy for the Hob done at the PDSA? Phantom Think you may have to make a donation to the PDSA, anyone? Quote Link to post
tb25 4,627 Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 (edited) Thank you Mal, Those were just a few of the questions I've been thinking of and the ones that were playing on my mind. I wonder if I could get the vasectomy for the Hob done at the PDSA? Phantom Think you may have to make a donation to the PDSA, anyone? a donation mate yes, well it is with dogs and that,phantom be worth givin them a ring pal Edited August 5, 2010 by tb25 Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 Yeah, thats right, they do ask for a donation. I will gladly make a good donation to the PDSA; they did a lot for me many years ago, when I had a dog and I was out of work. Phantom Quote Link to post
stealthy1 3,964 Posted August 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 Yeah, thats right, they do ask for a donation. I will gladly make a good donation to the PDSA; they did a lot for me many years ago, when I had a dog and I was out of work. Phantom Is there a minimum donation? Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 (edited) Not as far as I am aware, there never used to be But theservice is only (as far as I am aware) for people on low incomes. Being on Incapacity Benefit I should qualify again. Mind you if I was working, I wouldn't need to trapse all the way into Hull as there are a good 8 or 9 vets between here and Hull! One has litterally just opened up about 300 yards from me and the next one is just across the road about half a mile away... Phantom Edited August 12, 2010 by Phantom Quote Link to post
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