mole catcher 1 Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 just thought you long net boys would like to see this. The mesh size is 2.1/4 inch and as you can see the fully grown rabbit has all but passed through the net. I am thinking of knitting up some 2inch mesh nets, any ideas or views on this? i must thank hedgehunter for taking the pics for me Quote Link to post
Rabbithunter 456 Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 mate, ideally on a nylon net or spun nylon net, you want to use a 2 1/8" board. A 2 1/4" board gives you a full mesh of 4.5" and as you know, nylon has a bit of stretch in it. hope this is of help Quote Link to post
Guest simonw Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Thats very interesting , just recently i have had full grown rabbits pass through 2 1/8 th mesh on both purse and long, but i think it is only a exception, so, do you reduce the size for the odd few and risk bouncing a lot more or do you cater for the area and needs. I thought it was a hole in the net but after watching it back on dvd,, it passes straight through . On a different subject slightly, does anyone know of a 1 and 1/2 inch mesh supplier, or 3 inch full mesh as the babbys need catching, i am looking for both purse and longnets in this size, anyone else use them?? Quote Link to post
mole catcher 1 Posted November 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 On a different subject slightly, does anyone know of a 1 and 1/2 inch mesh supplier, or 3 inch full mesh as the babbys need catching, i am looking for both purse and longnets in this size, anyone else use them?? hello Mr W, glad i have the wealth of your knowledge at my disposal :thumbs-up: would a net made from smaller mesh result in bounce offs only if the net was set at a hight were the net is too high resulting in the rabbit not enmeshing itself properly? would this prob be less likely if you were to add more running kill? my setting hight is about 18-20inch high,this in my eyes allows the rabbit to be pass under the top line befor it hits the back of the net,add to this the running kill and the rabbit being well back in the net,surely a smaller mesh size would not be a problem? what about rabbit speed,too fast =bounce off,too slow= rabbit sences net and fecks off. AS a purse net envelopes a rabbit surely smaller mesh's would be an advantige,would it not? Rabbithunter:you are right there is an amount of strech in a nylon net so i suppose we should expect a few to get away till next time Quote Link to post
Guest simonw Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 (edited) All nets be it 2, 2 1/8 or 2 1/4 will at times have rabbits bounce of or untangle, even with as much slack as 3 to 1, speed be it to slow or too fast will also have a bearing but many will not or are afraid to admit that their net will let rabbits go sometimes, i have yet to witness a man women or child that has never had a escapee, it is just that normally you cannot see it because it is dark and you are beating in, unles you are of course behind the net killing. i just wondered that if the mesh was that bit smaller would it have the adverse effect, but as i do not net a 2 inch mesh and have only witnesed a few 2 inchmesh longnets, i could'nt really say one way or the other BUT perhaps those more inclined could enlighten us a little. the sideway and top to bottom kill would of course have to be adequate but how many rabbits have you seen or caught by theor legs and not head??? quite a few, especially on still nights as you know, if we all waited for the perfect night we would never get out, which is what i need to do As for the smaller nets, as our seasons change if we don't, then we will get stagnent and stale in our approach to the removal of the furry one the way for the future must surely be the nets we have on our vans to include a few more smaller meshes to avoid those little babbies from running straight through and disapearing only to emerge when you have gone and the farmers wife is planting her new plants :whistle: But getting such nets is harder and as my net making skills are piss poor, i may have to practice a bit or sweet talk someone into making me a few Edited November 16, 2006 by simonw Quote Link to post
mole catcher 1 Posted November 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 (edited) But getting such nets is harder and as my net making skills are piss poor, i may have to practice a bit or sweet talk someone into making me a few Its no good you winking at me,ive made you enough nets to date, Edited November 16, 2006 by mole catcher Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,739 Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 (edited) Edited November 17, 2006 by CHALKWARREN Quote Link to post
mole catcher 1 Posted November 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Point of question to chalkwarren: you said your nets prefered witdth is 12 mesh high,that being so at what hight would you be setting your nets? the start of this post was just out of curiosity,hoping to get an insight into other peoples methods. all it has done is open up more questions. I think what many have said is true,adapt your methods to suit your needs. as chalkwarren rightly said there is no definitive tool but it pays to keep your mind open to each others ways. over the many years that ive netted it still surprise's me how each mans methods differ. Quote Link to post
andy mecca 5 Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 just an observation, but that net looks awful tight with just one rabbit in it how much net have you got between pegs Quote Link to post
mole catcher 1 Posted November 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 just an observation, but that net looks awful tight with just one rabbit in it how much net have you got between pegs its 100yrd long with hazle pegs set at 5 yrds. the total length of net over 100yrds is in fact 200yrds. what you cant see in the pic is because of the wind im in fact holding the loose bagging out of the way for the pics.when set there is 10yrds of net hanging over a 5 yrd distance (2-1bagging) Quote Link to post
Rabbithunter 456 Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 mole catcher, chalkwarren stated - before he did the dissapearing act again - that he likes traditional nets, to be 12 meshes wide. I assume this is primarily because of with a net of that depth, you do not get a massive tail hanging low, like factory made sheet netting. You will find that factory produced sheet netting is about 5' deep when stretched. This isn't exactly needed because rabbits are balled up in the running slack and not the height of the net. Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,739 Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 (edited) Edited November 17, 2006 by CHALKWARREN Quote Link to post
mole catcher 1 Posted November 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 chalkwarren i was just turning things over in my head,to much time on my hands. like youself ive a few yrs exp with the nets but i still like others opinions on things. thanks for the posts best i just leave it as it is and get out and do bit. happy netting to all Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,739 Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 (edited) Edited November 17, 2006 by CHALKWARREN Quote Link to post
netrigger 568 Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Mesh size...twine types... my old mentor favoured a web of fine hemp 4 1/2 x 12 md yard for yard slack his opinion that the 4 1/2" held the rabbits better I still have and use one of his nets to date and a very good net indeed accounted many a rabbit . I can remember the smile on his face when the sheet netting came on the scene his words f**k lad no more bursting your balls knitting webs ... no more worries about loseing a couple of 100yards to Keepers its that cheap you can replace your nets in a day or to at that time KNOX of Kilbirnie were big players in nylon sheet netting, the sheets came in 150yrd 4"meshx 15md dark green in colour twine size 210/12 (4z) he made them 75yarders and was well pleased about the weight of them.. nice and lite compared to hemp, any way to cut a long story short he soon lost his respect for the sheet nets... mesh to small.... and the damage to the nets was sky high with the rabbits biteing the mesh... so it was back to bursting your balls knitting hand made nets but with nylon and the favourd 4 1/2" mesh x12md. to this day all my nets,hand made or sheet are made up of these mesh sizes and depth . SIMONW contact one of the many inshore fishing gear suppliers regarding 3 1/2"mesh nets you can get it in 4z or 6z 30 to 50 mesh deep ...just cut to suit depth cheap as chips but it useually comes in white but it takes a nylon dye no probs. REGARDS. Quote Link to post
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